[cma-l] Government response to petition 'allthevoices'

Sun Jul 25 12:05:56 BST 2010

the licence fee is a tax for the upkeep of the BBC - and we are not a state
broadcaster.  We deserve proper payment for the services that we provide to
the community.  A weakened BBC means a strengthened Rupert Murdoch and a
weakened community media sector.  So let's prove our strengths as a provider
of social gain and not give strength to the monopolising dreams of The
Digger...  do you seriously want to be seen as part of the reason that we
ended up with Fox News UK?

and slim the wage packets of the BBC top brass and top, er, 'talent' too..
A far more fair settlement wd be for Auntie to pay us to host extended work
placements for all its new employees...

[rant ends]

bests,

Phil

On 23 July 2010 20:23, mark polden <markianpolden at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  I realise that it is an old chestnut, phil but my argument is that
> effectively the license fee is a tax and what we and our listeners want it
> to be used for. I think that in this settlement the government will force
> the BBC to look at what it does very carefully, we are only talking about a
> small percentage which should make absolutely no difference to the BBC apart
> from focusing the mind a little about people wage packets
>
> Mark
>
> ------------------------------
> From: phil.korbel at googlemail.com
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:25:27 +0100
>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Government response to petition 'allthevoices'
> To: markianpolden at hotmail.com
> CC: murray at shmu.org.uk; julian at 10radio.org; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
>
>
> Hi Murray
>
> IMHO the CRF form and process is not onerous and in itself presents a
> reasonable competence barrier to applicants - i.e. if you cant fill out a
> relatively simple application, with all the guidance and steers given, then
> maybe you are not a right and proper recipient of that public money.  Which
> is not to disagree with the idea of more experienced stations helping out
> others - but that help should be about getting them to a stage where they
> can fill out the form - not filling out the form for them.
>
> Hi Mark
>
> This is a bit of an old chestnut for me but - we really should not be on
> the side of those politicians who seek to disable the BBC and a call for top
> slicing does exactly that.  I say this someone who nearly gagged as I read
> this week's Media Guardian Top 100 and the salaries the top BBC execs get -
> a disgrace.   But if community radio is '90% community' then we should not
> seek the bulk of our funding from a 'radio' pot.  What we should be asking
> for is funding that recognises our contribution to society [big or
> otherwise] and to multiple government priorities.
>
> The Community Radio Fund should recognise that point - and be bigger.
>
> But hey folks - lets get real - the next two years are going to be very
> grim for us all - stations will go dark and be cut to the bone and we'll
> need to work together to weather the storm.
>
> Over and out,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On 23 July 2010 12:02, mark polden <markianpolden at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It would be a good time to start as part of all the voices talking about a
> portion of the license fee being part of this, the government has already
> said there is to be some boat rocking done as part of the 2012/13 BBC
> license settlement and it plays very well to the big society image that is
> being promoted at the moment
>
> Mark Polden
> Flame 1521
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:11:03 +0100
> From: murray at shmu.org.uk
> To: julian at 10radio.org
> CC: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Government response to petition 'allthevoices'
>
>
> I think there are two elements to this Julian;
>
> - we should work together to support those who have less experience in
> completing funding applications in producing an application that truly
> reflects the quality of the work of their organisation (I'm happy to assist
> where I can - perhaps we can create a guide on the CMA website or Toolkit?)
>
> - and we should have a large enough fund that allows though who have been
> successful in previous round with 'good' applications to be funded again
> (otherwise, eventually, the only ones which will be being considered will be
> the ones who haven't had funding before - either new stations or the ones
> who have previously submitted poor applications).
>
> All the best
>
> Murray
>
>
> please reply tomurray at shmu.org.uk
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> On 21/07/2010 17:02, Julian Mellor wrote:
>
> The reported comment made by Richard Hilton at the CMA conference "The
> quality of applications had been surprisingly poor" does not bode well for
> the future of the fund.
>
> Why would anyone keep a fund going when it's a struggle to find projects
> that are good enough to fund?
>
> The campaign to keep the fund will need to address this, perhaps explaining
> why recent applications have been poor and drawing attention to the quality
> and outcomes of previous grants.
>
> Julian
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>  On 21 Jul 2010, at 16:41, jaqui devereux wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> Many of you will have received this from HM Government today regarding the
> Allthevoices campaign.  We have checked with DCMS and this is the current
> position of the new government.
>
> However, a major caveat though - the new government cannot confirm that
> this would be their position following the Comprehensive Spending Review in
> the autumn, so not quite time to jump for any joy.  The CMA Council is
> meeting on 31st July and will be devising a major campaign to feed into the
> CSR to try to ensure that the Community Radio Fund is both maintained and
> expanded and we will need your help in that.  Let us know if you have
> particular ideas on the best approach for the campaign.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jaqui
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *HM Government* <petitions at hmg.gov.uk>
> Date: 21 July 2010 14:42
> Subject: Government response to petition 'allthevoices'
> To: e-petition signatories <petitions at hmg.gov.uk>
>
>
> You signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to support the
> sustainability and growth of community radio by substantially increasing
> the resources of the Community Radio Fund.
>
> Her Majesty's Government has responded to that petition and you can view it
> here:
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> http://www.hmg.gov.uk/epetition-responses/petition-view.aspx?epref=allthevoices
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> Her Majesty's Government
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> Petition information - http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/allthevoices/
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