[cma-l] MW antenna

Susan Quick susanquick13 at googlemail.com
Tue Dec 28 06:16:47 GMT 2010


Hi everyone
  Enabling Radio Drama needs your help please.  People with a range of
impairments producing short dramas in which the protagonist (central
character) encounters and is unable to resolve an issue which disables her.
Listeners are invited to phone/text the studio and say what they would do
live on air.  This is a development of Augusto Boal's - with whom we have
all trained - Theatre of the Oppressed.  Never been done on radio anywhere
in the world. We'll be the first!

  And we need your help.  We've just received a Grassroots Grants from the
Community Foundation, Halifax for £3,0000  to spend on equipment - but the
catch is we've got to spend it  by 31st December.  We need to know where to
spend it and if anyone out there has got what we need second-hand.   No we
haven't got a station. Our hope is to broadcast from local community
stations: Phoenix Halifax, ALLFM Manchester and NE1 Newcastle have
all offered us space.  We need eqipment for rehearsal purposes and for
producing outside a studio.

Below is the list that we have put together:
1  MIcrophones and headphones for a mininimum of 4 actors
2. Recording equipment
3  Editing equipment
4  Telephone for broadcast so listeners can phone in live on air.
Please let us know if any of you out there have either got what we need or
can recommend a good place to buy anywhere between Sheffield and Leeds and
Manchester.

Thanks a million and Happy New Year
All the best

Susan Quick
Artistic Director
Enabling Radio Drama


On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:00 AM, studio <studio at ravensoundradio.co.uk>wrote:

> If you can still get hold of one a fibreglass whip might be the easiest to
> install and maintain, might also find favour with the planning authorities
> if you aren't on crown property.
>
> Regards,  Tony Bailey
>
>
>
> On Sun 26/12/10 9:43 PM , "Martin Steers" martinsteers at yahoo.com sent:
>
>    CAM FM
>
> (Was CUR1350) has just started on FM and i think still has the old AM kit
> and mast you could give them a ring for some 2nd hand kit.. (would need some
> referb)
>
> Martin
>
>
> --- On Sun, 26/12/10, mark polden wrote:
>
>
> From: mark polden
> Subject: [cma-l] MW antenna
> To: hulaksewa at yahoo.com, "CMA-L"
> Date: Sunday, 26 December, 2010, 9:41
>
>  Our station is MW too, do you have an allocated frequency. We are on 1521
> and you need either approx a 12.5m tower (1/4 wavelength) or 25m tower (1/2
> wavelength) and radiating wires in the ground with a 25m radius. The other
> option is instead of a tower you can hang wires from tall trees.
>
> We did wires in trees for about £5k but a tower built would be about £8k
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Mark Polden
>  Flame CCR
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 00:50:26 -0800
> From: hulaksewa at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Future thoughts for CMA
> To: markianpolden at hotmail.com
>
>   Hi Mark
>
> Thanks for the offer, Ian too has offered to help.  Really very kind of you
> to come back so soon.  The station is MW and basically our requirement is
> type, size, size and cost.
>
> Tikendra
>
>
>
> British Gurkha Welfare Society (BGWS),
> 119 Wren Way,Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 8TA, UK
>
> Phone: (44) 01252 510 794
> http://www.bgws.org/
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: mark polden
> To: hulaksewa at yahoo.com; office at ccr-fm.co.uk; transplanfm at hotmail.com;
> CMA-L
> Sent: Sat, 25 December, 2010 15:31:39
> Subject: RE: [cma-l] Future thoughts for CMA
>
> Please give us some further information, FM or MW details of the site etc
>
> Ian Hickling or I can probably help.
>
> Mark Polden
>  Flame CCR
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:22:06 -0800
> From: hulaksewa at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Future thoughts for CMA
> To: office at ccr-fm.co.uk; transplanfm at hotmail.com;
> markianpolden at hotmail.com; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
>
>   Hi all
>
> We are all set to go but stuck with the antenna problem.  Could anyone
> direct me to the right people to address this problem, what we are seeking
> basically is tech advice.
>
> Thank you
>
> Merry Christmas to all
>
> Tikendra
>
> British Gurkha Welfare Society (BGWS),
> 119 Wren Way,Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 8TA, UK
>
> Phone: (44) 01252 510 794
> http://www.bgws.org/
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: Office - ccr-fm
> To: Ian Hickling ; mark polden ; CMA-L
> Sent: Fri, 24 December, 2010 14:53:53
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Future thoughts for CMA
>
>  Merry Christmas All
>
>
>
> Here we go again with the power / transmission / 5km / ofcom / original
> application  -  malarky ………
>
>
>
> Not wanting to spoil anyones christmas so --------------- I’ll tread very
> carefully.          Let’s analyse the Community Radio story.
>
>
>
> 1)       Someone has this brilliant idea = Community Radio
>
> 2)       Commercial Radio don’t like it !
>
> 3)       A bit of whinging, wineing and dining takes place, a few
> politicians who are quite good at fiddling expenses get approached, but
> don’t have the balls to toss aside restrictions that basically beggar belief
> …………. It’s called      wrong priorities and being a job for the wrong reason
> !
>
> 4)       Anyway …………. Everyone agrees that we suck it and see ……………… so
> …………… we suck and see
>
> 5)       We suddenly notice that the flavour after sucking it has a rather
> unusual taste --- things are tough, they continue to be tough, they’re still
> tough and getting tougher …………….. still the main bits on the restrictions
> remain
>
> 6)       We all agree and people can see how wonderful community radio is
> …… we (CCR) have had about 25 youngsters in the station over the past 3
> weeks all making radio …… kids with dissabilities, kids who were once
> hanging about on the street now making radio, cub groups doin’ activities
> for their badges ---- only possible because of community radio.
>
> 7)       We get pats on the back from the Councils, the Police, the Fire
> service, Community Groups etc ……….. but we get no grants, no funding and the
> community fund is useless ………. Even it was ‘very good’ the way it’s doled
> out is a disgrace and goes against the fundamental way we operate community
> radio. EQUALITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES TO ALL
>
> 8)       We (CCR)   have to unfortunately change our tactics or DIE
> !                    the restrictions really do now RESTRICT / PREVENT /
> THWART growth and threaten our very survival.
>
> 9)       We (CCR) gain many listeners this year, our website grows and we
> try to generate money by ‘being a touch more commercial minded’ …………... no
> problem really as the ethos of the station remains the same ………… Community
> led / Community first / Not-for-profit / reinvestment in the station /
> volunteering / brotherhood …………..
>
> 10)   The rules prevent us from being ‘commercially minded’
> we simply dare not and cannot compete so what we are now left with is that
> ALL our funding streams are blocked.
>
> 11)   Sorry to Ian and others ………… but, I don’t know whether or not you
> have been away in Lapland with Father Christmas for the past 6 years but the
> 5km DOES exist. I ‘ll prove it ………. Because when we have approached ofcom
> regarding the ‘problems’ we get told the same thing and never get past the
> first hurdle. Areas of Poynton / Macclesfield / Wilmslow are outside our 5km
> ………… sometimes only ‘’yards’’       but the quote is …………. ‘’you are outside
> your zone’’    We obviously haveto be careful as we could interfere with
> other users. Bollington is surrounded by 3 miles of countryside ….. surely
> we can’t include shrubs, trees, sheep, canals etc into the figures …..
> ??          but we do !
>
> 12)   Other big users Key / Ram etc interfere with us ……………. BUT
> because of the 5km bull -------------------s
> -------------------------------h ------------------- it     we can’t defend
> ourselves …………………. Something as simple as putting the power up by 20 watts
> WOULD make a difference. We don’t need height, we do not want to chuck our
> signal all over the North West , we simply want to defend our Castle.
>
> 13)   We gain listeners but lose as many as we gain …………… why
> ?                    coz’ they can’t hear us ?
>
> 14)   This is where community radio is at !
>
> 15)   Each station needs a community fund that at least pays our licence
> fees … and rent (basically things that relate to our mer;; existance)    say
> = £12,000 each, guaranteed – every year – everyone
>
> 16)   Listeners / Sponsors / Local businesses do not really understand
> what we do. Actually, that isn’t exactly true as local people see that we
> work with others in the community etc …………………. BUT ……………….. let’s get down
> to laymans terms ……………… with the best will in the world and the desire to
> give a bit of money to the community, certainly in a recession the bottom
> line is these guys want to know ‘’ What do we get in return and listeners
> just want good community radio’’
>
> 17)   Advertising restrictions doesn’t give the sponsor what they want
> !      and a signal that hisses and spits the moment you go out of range by
> 3 yards doesn’t give a potential listener what they want.
>
> 18)   I find it absolutely unbeleivable that all the smaller stations like
> us haven’t gone tits-up ??        however, looking at our position and
> reading between the lines, some are mighty close.
>
> 19)   Commercial stations seem to be able to do what the hell they want
> ….. I can prove that as well with at least 4 around this area who have at
> the drop of a hat change their remits and commitments.
>
> 20)   We’re fed up ……… pissed off (if we are going to swear) and angry
> ……………… not fed up of what we are doing ….. we LOVE IT !         but fed up
> of being treated like morons ……… in fact you wouldn’t treat a dog how we are
> being treated.
>
> 21)   We have more than proved our worth, we have also proved that the
> sales / non sales etc of commercial radio has no bearing on what we do or v
> / v     and if it does, it’s their fault for being either to expensive, too
> greedy, to arogant or basically garbage.          And yet still …… they
> treat us as competition.
>
>
>
> It’s Christmas, and the good lord won’t be smiling on me if I am angry. It
> is all about peace and goodwill and everyone getting along together. This
> can be done if there is a will within the Ivory Towers.
>
>
>
> I can’t say anymore really except ………… Merry Christmas and let us hope for
> some goodwill, common sense and success in 2011.
>
>
>
> God bless us all …………………. everyone
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Tiny Tim …………….. er    Nick
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
> Sent: 24 December 2010 10:54
> To: Mark Polden; phil at somersetfilm.com; cma-l
> Subject: [cma-l] Future thoughts for CMA
>
>
>
>
> Mark
> There is no "5km Rule"
> There never has been!
> The 5km is a suggestion for what the usual Community Radio station should
> aim for.
> The criterion has always been - as I have said so many times - that it is
> up to you as the Applicant to identify your target audience and to tell
> Ofcom how you proposed to cover it.
> Just a few have done that and have been allocated the coverage they want
> If you can't or don't do that, then you really have no-one to blame but
> yourself.
> And similarly, if you don't get someone who understands propagation to
> guide you and prepare your technical submission, you're asking for trouble
> because you most likely won't cover your desired audience and you therefore
> won't be able to command the kind of revenue you'll need to stay in business
> after yourset-up funding has gone.
>
> The vast majority of the 190-odd CRs on air at the moment are in this
> situation and Ofcom currently has said "no chance" for anyone wanting
> clearance to upgrade transmission.
> It has to be said also that the money to put in a sensible transmission
> system that will do the trick usually isn't made available at the start and
> that's the other reason why stations are suffering.
> I know of one recently that spent £900 on three mic arms and then decided
> that it couldn't afford a processor.
> Crazy!
>
> If you mean asking for more power, then that's quite a different matter
> from your "5km Rule", but Ofcom will still give you exactly the same message
> for a long time to come.
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> From: markianpolden at hotmail.com
> To: phil at somersetfilm.com; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:25:33 +0000
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Happy Christmas and future thoughts for CMA
>
> Hi All
>
>
>
> From our point of view, it is great the swing that CMA has with ofcom.
>
>
>
> We would like to propose a task for CMA, it is this.
>
>
>
> To tackle the 5km rule for community radio and seek a seperate definition
> for "community of special interest" radio stations which does not involve
> the 5km rule
>
>
>
> We believe that this needs to be done before round three applications are
> sought i.e. within the next three months
>
>
>
> I have been seconded by our management to attend CMA meetings
>
>
>
> Phil - Where is the Jan 29 meeting
>
>
>
> Mark Polden
>
> Flame CCR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:18:31 +0000
> From: phil at somersetfilm.com
> To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Subject: [cma-l] Happy Christmas and future thoughts for CMA
>
> Hi members and friends
>
>
>
> Happy Christmas and a great New Year to all!
>
>
>
> This has been a challenging year for most of us in different ways and the
>
> signs are that it won't get much easier anytime soon.   However the good
>
> news is that thanks to the hard work of our great staff and the support of
>
> members, CMA is holding its own and continuing to punch above its weight on
>
> many fronts.
>
>
>
> We are far from complacent however and right now Council is looking at the
>
> best ways forward for the organisation into 2011-12 and beyond.  We need
>
> your input into this debate.
>
>
>
> * Three of the main questions are:   what are the key characteristics of our
>
> sector? what does the sector need? - and - what can the CMA feasibly offer?
>
>
>
> Some of the answers to these questions are obvious of course - like lots of
>
> us (but by no means all) run radio stations, like we need more money and
>
> higher profile for example!  Others may not be so clear.
>
>
>
> We've found it useful to go back to our Charter and to ask if it remains fit
>
> for purpose.  The answer in our view is primarily 'yes, the Charter
>
> continues to eloquently express what we mean by community media and what the
>
> important principles are that inform our practice'.    I'm adding the
>
> wording of the Charter in full to the foot of this posting for you to
>
> review.    We feel there are some details which could do with updating but
>
> only minor revisions needed.    What do you think?
>
>
>
> Does everyone read and digest the charter when they sign up to the CMA?  Do
>
> we all adhere to these principles in our activities?   We feel it's
>
> important to go back to first principles in this way, to try and identify
>
> our USP and our collective commitment to it.  We are entering an ever more
>
> complex multi platform environment in which it will be increasingly
>
> difficult to discern the provenance and intention of content.  CMA and the
>
> community media sector has a stated common purpose  and we need to be clear
>
> we are all signed up to the same starting point.   There may well be other
>
> organisations who would also subscribe to the Charter - they are our
>
> potential partners as we seek to sustain accessible platforms for theUK 's
>
>
> rich diversity of voices to be heard without fear or prejudice.
>
>
>
> Once we all confirm that we have the starting point right (and I know this
>
> was done years back but a review process is always healthy) then there are
>
> important questions to ask about structure and strategy.   Council is
>
> looking at these issues too.
>
>
>
> Our next meeting is on 29 January.  I will post a weekly update on our
>
> debate through January and look forward to hearing your views as we move
>
> forward.  We need your input so please give it some thought.  First off,
>
> thoughts about the Charter and whether we can reference it as a kite-mark
>
> for content.  A bit like Fair Trade for example.  There are pros and cons
>
> for this argument but let's hear your thoughts.  Many thanks.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, here's to a good festive season for all.
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> Phil Shepherd
>
> Chair of Council
>
> Community Media Association
>
>
> philshep.wordpress.com
>
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> information, the development of culture, the freedom to form and confront
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> opinions and active participation in local life; noting that different
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> cultures and communities lead to a diversity of forms of Community Media;
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> this Charter identifies objectives which Community Media share and should
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> strive to achieve:
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> 1. To promote the right to communicate, to assist the free flow of
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> encourage local creative talent, to foster local traditions, and to provide
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> 3. To seek to have their ownership representative of local geographically
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> recognisable communities or of communities of common interest;
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> 4. To be editorially independent of the government, commercial and religious
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> 5. To provide a right of access to minority and marginalised groups and to
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> organisation subject to serious misrepresentation;
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> 7. To be established as organisations which are not run with a view to
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> profit and to ensure their independence by being financed from a variety of
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> sources;
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> 8. To recognise and respect the contribution of volunteers, to recognise the
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> right of paid workers to join their trade unions and provide satisfactory
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> working conditions for both;
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> 9. To operate management, programming and employment practices which oppose
>
> discrimination and which are open and accountable to all supporters, staff
>
> and volunteers;
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> 10. To foster exchange between Community Media practitioners using
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> communications to develop greater understanding in support of peace,
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> tolerance, democracy and development.
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