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<div>We've used a variety of systems over the years. We had good results from IPDTL, but also have positive experiences of the currently free Cleanfeed and Source Elements. The benefits of having a return feed is that a good engineer can setup return talkback,
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On 2 Aug 2017, at 11:05, Mike Davison <<a href="mailto:mike.g1sbn@gmail.com">mike.g1sbn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>And you can't have my 1978 Sony ICF5900w portable either. It's in perfect working order.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/08/2017 14:52, Bay Fm Radio wrote:<br>
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<div>I've got a knackered DAB radio set if you want it for your museum. Unfortunately, you can't have the 30 year old FM ghetto blaster, it's still working perfectly ;)</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I never understand the fuss with all this malarkey.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You watch Sky News and the BBC + ITV / Channel 4 News and they have interviewees on talking to the Newscaster via Skype and quite frankly
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the picture is all wibbly wobbley and the mouth motion to speech is so out-of-sync you think it’s a different programme LOL but alas, it does the job.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think it is all about ‘’does it do what it says on the tin?’’ you can mess around til doomsday for absolute perfection, my
policy has always been ‘it’s pointless’ the average listener has forgotten all the glitches after about an 8 second count (if that)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I can’t remember who pointed something out the other day regarding delayed broadcast … ? ie:- record it, send it back to the Studio and
play it out 30 minutes later ………it sounds almost live’ and well pointed out, those being interviewed can listen back even from the venue ……. Personally, I think that is better than live’</span></p>
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<p>That can also be a useful technique for interviews or remote show presentation if the person at the other end has recording facilities.</p>
<p>You can record the live interview/conversation using Skype but also recording clean feeds of the local contribution at each end, then have the remote recording sent in and mix it with the local recording to recreate a high sound quality version.</p>
<p>Each part does what it does best: Skype provides the low-latency interactivity and the clean feed recordings provide the quality. It's a good idea also to keep a copy of the Skype version in case anything goes wrong with the clean recordings, and as always
it depends on your remote end getting a good acoustic environment and knowing what they are doing.</p>
<p>I think a lot of multi-participant podcasts are recorded and edited that way nowadays as well.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 30 July 2017 at 23:02 Associated Broadcast Consultants <<a href="mailto:info@a-bc.co.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">info@a-bc.co.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- People at the event will not be listening to the radio, or if they do they might stand a chance of hearing themselves</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- It's less risky - in case of naughty words, or the person just freezes</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Much smoother transition from studio to event. The presenter will have pre-listened to it and know how to handover into and out of it</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- avoid technical glitches like mobile network congestion, poor coverage etc.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 30 July 2017 at 19:33, <<a href="mailto:admin@edenfm.co.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">admin@edenfm.co.uk</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal">Here, we simply stream back to the studio.<br>
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We use Butt to encode (free, although donation suggested) and feed a dedicated web stream, that costs us about £3 a month.</p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal">All you need is access to a wi-fi at the OB end. If we don’t have that, then we use a 3G dongle.</p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal">At the studio end, we use WinAmp to receive the stream and feed to the studio desk.<br>
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The cheapest possible way and it works every time.<br>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><strong>Eden FM Radio Ltd</strong><br>
<strong>Address:</strong> Mostyn Hall, Friargate, Penrith CA11 7XR<br>
<strong>Office:</strong> 01768 899 101<br>
<strong>Studio:</strong> 01768 899 107<br>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><strong>From:</strong> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jonathan Clingham<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> 28 July 2017 13:09<br>
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<strong>Subject:</strong> [cma-l] Outside broadcasting recommendation</p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Can anyone share some ideas with us here at Saint FM.
<a href="http://www.saint.fm" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.saint.fm</a></span></p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">We want to be more active with outside broadcasting</span></p>
<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">We have an historical event coming up that is in a remote location that will attract lots of outside audience</span></p>
<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">We will have access to phone lines and (possible the internet with up to 128k to be confirm)</span></p>
<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">This location is not line of site to the station, previously we have used copper pairs, is there any cheap IP or any solution recommended from your experience.</span></p>
<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">What outside broadcasting options are recommended that is cost effective.</span></p>
<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">We don’t have a load of money to throw at this as we are a community station driven by less than 4000 listeners locally. </span></p>
<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Just to not we need to feed the broadcast back the station for local broadcast and internet streaming.</span></p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Johnny</span></p>
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<p class="ox-88da24388d-msonormal">regards</p>
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