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</head><body><p>I can see that when the Community stations are "community of interest" rather than just a station for a city, area or region, then overlap can surely occur -  ie one station serving say the muslim community and one station dedicated to say, the Arts - then overlap in transmission area is entirely possible.</p><p>Greg</p><blockquote type="cite"><!-- [if !mso]> --><!-- <![endif] --><!-- [if gte mso 9]> --><!-- <![endif] --><!-- [if gte mso 9]> --><!-- <![endif] -->On 18 July 2017 at 15:26 Canalside's Thread events guide for NE Cheshire <office@thethread.org.uk> wrote:<br><br><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">Explained more to the point, briefer and possibly better than my assessment Shirley--- but nonetheless the end result being the same. Words like ‘competition’  ‘need’  ‘small scale’    etc etc spring to mind …. These are the famous buzzwords used previously, but now the goalposts have gone on walkabouts again and we have same set of rules but viewed from the other angle.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">You honestly couldn’t write the script on this lot.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">You may recall I had a ding dong with James on this message board about 3 years ago ……. I stick to my guns and say that I feel I am right. The whole thing is a complete debacle, are folk making it up as they go along ?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">So if I’m correct you would now have 2 Community Stations allegedly up against the Local Commercial Outfit, if the Community Station wasn’t of a different ilk, then they also would be competing against each other. However, regardless of what they deliver, the funding opportunities might be the same anyway, thus reducing the size of an already existent Cup Cake. I can feel A i told you so coming on again ……… are we going to take bets on which one of our wonderful fraternity is going to go down the pan owing to this announcement ?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">With reference to that classic phrase     ‘’expression of interest’’       from what I can recall we offered plenty of expressions of both interest and frustration over the years with in the main no one paying a blind bit of notice. I                 I don’t understand this one I have to admit ---- I think my legs have been whooshed and whipped from under me.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">I had to laugh at the small scale commercial radio list ----- relevant to us here of course in Cheshire, it says Dee …. Dee being part of the same group as Silk who also already have a DAB Station and these are ‘small scale’               at the bottom of the website it actually reads     DEE GROUP                                someone’s avin a Giraffe again             I repeat, you couldn’t write this script if you tried. It’s only the fact that it is so highly entertaining that prevents us all from going doo-lally.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">Nick H Dumpty            </span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif; color: black;"></span><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;">     keep chucklin’ everyone    onwards and upwards</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p><div><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Shirley Ludford<br><strong>Sent:</strong> 18 July 2017 13:56<br><strong>To:</strong> The Community Media Association Discussion List <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [cma-l] Invitation of applications for community radio licences</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19239"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;">Overlapping cover is not helpful to pre-existing Stations, I would have thought, and somewhat removes the need to identify a need...?</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19240"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19242"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19241"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><em><span style="font-family: 'Bookman Old Style',serif; color: #007f7f;"> <strong>Shirls</strong></span></em></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19243"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><strong><em><span style="font-size: 12.5pt; font-family: 'Bookman Old Style',serif; color: #007f7f;"> </span></em></strong></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19244"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><strong><em><span style="font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></em></strong></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19245"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><img id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.swindon1055.com/v_images/shirley__rep.jpg" alt=""> </span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;">Shi</span><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #0000bf;">rley Ludford</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19269"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19270"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: #0000bf;">Mob: 07951 366289</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19271"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;">High Sheriff's Award for Services to Community</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19272"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;">Pride Of Swindon Award<br>President: Swindon Male Voice Choir</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19273"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;">Patron: Commonweal School </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;">Patron: Pegasus Brass</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19274"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: #0000bf;">Station Manager. 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These applications will be for services operating on FM only:</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19287"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19289"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"><a href="https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/104651/invitation-overlapping-areas.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/104651/invitation-overlapping-areas.pdf</a></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19290"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;"> </span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19291"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: black;">The closing date for applications is <strong>Tuesday 24 October 2017 at 3pm</strong>.</span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1500382213740_19292"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; 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