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    <p>Even if you're fully funded, you should run things on business
      lines &amp; in a business like manner.....</p>
    <p>Unless your aim is to become like too many of the nationalised
      industries of the 60's/70s?<br>
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    Eddie<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="0">KCR broadcasts across Moray and beyond on 107.7FM
and to the world on the internet at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://kcr.fm">http://kcr.fm</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.facebook.com/KCR107.7/">https://www.facebook.com/KCR107.7/</a>

KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd.
Registered in Scotland: No SC 173805
Registered Office: 59a Land Street, Keith, Banffshire, AB55 5AN</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/06/17 13:47, Associated Broadcast
      Consultants wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Agreed - the "cap in hand" or even Ofcom fund
        approach is too precarious to be viable in the medium and long
        term.  
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        <div>Unless we have fully state-financed community radio (like
          they do in France I believe?), then each station has to be run
          along commercial lines.
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          <div>Glyn</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 1 June 2017 at 10:56, Ian Hickling <span
            dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                <p>I think we're fooling ourselves if we refuse to
                  accept CR as a small but vital Industry Sector - and
                  each operation as a commercial business.<br>
                  The "Not for Profit" element is simply a financial
                  end-of-year adjustment and should be irrelevant to
                  efficiency of operation.</p>
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                  on behalf of Richard Hilton &lt;<a
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                  <b>Sent:</b> 01 June 2017 09:40:13<span class=""><br>
                    <b>To:</b> The Community Media Association
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                    <div class="h5"><b>Cc:</b> Community Media mailing<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] C R Licensing - the
                      Methodology</div>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’m
                          not sure what’s worse; us becoming an
                          ‘industry’ with our own coat of arms or
                          community radio being run by benevolent
                          dictators (see Ian’s previous email ‘As with
                          running the country - sorry - what works best
                          is a benevolent dictator’)!</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cheers</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Richard</span></p>
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                                lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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                              lang="EN-US"> <a
                                href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cma-l-bounces@mailman.<wbr>commedia.org.uk</a>
                              [mailto:<a
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                              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> 01 June 2017 08:51<br>
                              <b>To:</b> <a
                                href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> Community Media mailing &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] C R Licensing
                              - the Methodology</span></p>
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                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Thanks
                              Trevor.<br>
                              I do very sincerely endorse your last
                              point - that community broadcasters have
                              so much more to offer than the Beeb will
                              ever realise.<br>
                              Translated  into Latin that is:</span></p>
                          <pre style="unicode-bidi:isolate;white-space:pre-wrap;word-wrap:break-word;font-size:29px!important;line-height:36px!important;overflow:hidden" id="m_5013965670003202709x_tw-target-text"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;inherit&quot;,serif;color:black" lang="LA">Possit scire plura quam corporate</span><span style="font-family:&quot;inherit&quot;,serif;color:#212121"> </span></pre>
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                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">and
                              it can be on our Industry achievement of
                              arms
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                              <a
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                              on behalf of Trevor Lockwood &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:lockwood@btinternet.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lockwood@btinternet.com</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> 31 May 2017 22:04:10<br>
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                              <b>Cc:</b> Community Media mailing<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] C R Licensing
                              - the Methodology</span> </p>
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                            style="font-size:10.0pt">Ian<br>
                            <br>
                            I agree. An individual or a very close-knit
                            team - even with a team there has to be
                            someone in charge.<br>
                            <br>
                            It’s very difficult, and I suspect some
                            stations decay because the a) one person
                            gets fed up or b) an alternative leader
                            tries to take over.<br>
                            <br>
                            &gt;From my own experience I had competition
                            - a small group who wanted to turn the
                            station into a money-making machine. I’d b
                            been at it for six years, and we had 65
                            volunteers, and it was doing well enough. I
                            didn’t fight to retain control - but the
                            money-makers had left within a month,
                            quickly realising they couldn’t make cash.
                            The station has struggled ever since (IMHO).
                            It’s coming up  to 10 years old, not sure of
                            Ofcom are interested enough to notice that
                            it is still trying to be commercial, has
                            very few presenters, whose egos play the
                            music they like, and who have never
                            understood what community meant.<br>
                            <br>
                            I’m concerned now that the BBC seem to have
                            won the right to control - and are playing
                            the ‘big boss’. That’s a great pity because
                            potentially the community broadcasters have
                            so much more to offer than the Beeb will
                            ever realise.<br>
                            <br>
                            That’s another story.<br>
                            <br>
                            Trevor Lockwood<br>
                            once of Felixstowe Radio<br>
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