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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I repeat for the 500<sup>th</sup> time would it not be easier to simply regulate the spend ??? easy / simples <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eddie Stuart<br><b>Sent:</b> 29 April 2017 01:14<br><b>To:</b> ROBERT TYLER <bobtyler@btinternet.com>; The Community Media Association Discussion List <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Advertising Income & £15,000<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Hi Bob,<o:p></o:p></p><p>As I've understood it, if a station was allowed advertising, it could generate up to 50% of it's income by advertising - but remember that as Alex noted, this is "broadcast" income - if I sponsor your website, or an OB caravan etc, that's not "broadcast income" whereas advertising in your programmes is.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The £15,000 is a recent addition by the authorities which now allows you to earn £15,000 + 50%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So if your income is £50K, 50% is £25K.<br>£50K - £25K means that you used to be able to sell adverts to the tune of £25K.<br><br>Now, you disregard the 1st £15K and 50% of the remaining £35K is £17.5K.<br>£50K - £17.5K means that you can now sell adverts to the tune of £32.5K.<br><br>I hope....! :-)<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Eddie<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>KCR broadcasts across Moray and beyond on 107.7FM<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>and to the world on the internet at <a href="http://kcr.fm">http://kcr.fm</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://www.facebook.com/KCR107.7/">https://www.facebook.com/KCR107.7/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Registered in Scotland: No SC 173805<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Registered Office: 59a Land Street, Keith, Banffshire, AB55 5AN<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 28/04/17 16:42, ROBERT TYLER wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Did i see a maximum figer of £15,000 somewhere?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Is so, where does that come from?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>BT<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46913"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46912"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46911"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46910"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> "Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio" <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk"><tlr@gairloch.co.uk></a><br><b>To:</b> 'ROBERT TYLER' <a href="mailto:bobtyler@btinternet.com"><bobtyler@btinternet.com></a>; 'The Community Media Association Discussion List' <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"><cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk></a> <br><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46908">Sent:</b> Friday, 28 April 2017, 16:39<br><b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46915">Subject:</b> RE: [cma-l] FW: Ofcom - tomorrow</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46916"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv2355206287><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46920"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46919"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46918"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bob</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46921"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46922"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I don’t think anything has changed - the cap has always included all broadcast income as far as I know. That’s sponsorship and advertising – but note it is <b>broadcast</b> income – ie sponsorship that derives directly from the provision of broadcasts, such as programme sponsorship, advert spots etc. </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46924"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_46926"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>As far as I know, though I stand to be corrected, it doesn’t cover sponsorship of other activities with no mention in broadcasts, for example sponsorship of the station website or grants etc that don’t give rise to commercial credits on air.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>As for the Act, it does indeed mention sponsorship income. </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Section 262 Community Radio:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>…</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span class=yiv2355206287legds><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>(3) <span style='background:#EFF5F5'>An order under this section in relation to a description of services may, in particular, impose prohibitions or limitations on the inclusion of advertisements in services of that description and on the sponsorship of programmes included in the services.</span></span></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>…</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>In fact, the Act rarely mentions advertising without saying “advertising and sponsorship”, not just in the CR section.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Alex</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv2355206287yqt92617><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>ROBERT TYLER<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2017 15:31<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"><cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] FW: Ofcom - tomorrow</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4546"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Regarding the £15,000 max of sponsorship and advertising, can anyone explain this to me?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4547"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I thought the 2003 Communication Act did not mention sponsorship income?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>What has changed?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4549"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>BT<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4659"><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4691"><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4690"><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4689"><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4702"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> Bill Best <<a href="mailto:bill.best@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">bill.best@commedia.org.uk</a>><br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 28 April 2017, 12:50<br><b id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4700">Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] FW: Ofcom - tomorrow</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4688"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=yiv2355206287><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4687"><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4686"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I'd take that as evidence that they knew they would be called to account and they had to get on with the job.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4685"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4692"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The consultation response was one of our priorities for today.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4693"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4694"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1493389572858_4695"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Operations Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Community Media Association<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://twitter.com/community_media" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/community_media</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation" target="_blank">https://facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Canstream Internet Radio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.canstream.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://twitter.com/canstream" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/canstream</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 28 April 2017 at 12:32, Ian Hickling <<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id=yiv2355206287yqt40655><div><div id="yiv2355206287m_-1214527951174057908divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Interesting that Ofcom made an important announcement this morning:<br><a href="https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/101459/community-radio-future-licensing-technical-policy-statement.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__ data/assets/pdf_file/0020/ 101459/community-radio-future- licensing-technical-policy- statement.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>just as the CMA delegation was going in to a meeting to discuss all of that - and a few other vital points.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>Coincidence?<br>Or carefully planned strategy?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287m_-1214527951174057908Signature"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Ian Hickling<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Partner<br><br><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="yiv2355206287m_-1214527951174057908ecx_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Office: 016 3557 8435 (07h to 22h GTS)</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><hr size=3 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="yiv2355206287m_-1214527951174057908divRplyFwdMsg"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman. commedia.org.uk</a> <<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman. commedia.org.uk</a>> on behalf of Canalside's Thread events guide for NE Cheshire <<a href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk" target="_blank">office@thethread.org.uk</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2017 11:02:34<br><b>To:</b> 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] FW: Ofcom - tomorrow</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Dear People of Great Loveliness</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Not forgetting a troop of (few) other Stations who were hoodwinked at the outset as to what area they were meant to be covering, mind-boggled with jargon, led up the garden path, pecked at by (let’s use James’s phrase) childish moronic folk who lobbied to introduce restrictions (which by the way DID affect the set up) and still does indirectly affect operation as we still have to deal with all the baggage and leftovers from the mess (and I don’t want any so called experts trying to tell me otherwise as we [canalside] lived it, breathed it and have the T-Shirt to prove it) but alas, we have the Commercials / Experts who we have been told recently ‘apparently’ ‘’’want to help us’’’ </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Actions speak louder than words, so the best thing everyone can do is go back to square one, start how we ought to have started and then all the angst and frustration gets put to bed, we forgive and forget and move on YES as a Radio Fraternity, each with our own roles to play.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Let’s ask the same questions, but wheel in the Man from Del Monte coz ‘’he say Yes’’</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Personally, I do not have an issue with metaphorically speaking being third fiddle as I am but a mere insect in all of this, in fact I am but a mere insect in most things --- however, I take a dim view to being shoved to the back of the queue & being third fiddle whilst having our noses rubbed in it at the same time.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Let us have a bit of respect shown to our sector with actions --- not words nor more consultations and then we can ALL go to the hob-knobbing gatherings on an equal footing.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>If the experts and commercials do this, I will be the first person to give em a great big kiss and parade them around the streets of London in a sedan chair.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On a positive note ---- yes the experts giving tips and advice and putting it out there for us all is very good and it is to be applauded and I thank them and respect them for that – but you have to see the wider picture, and the wider picture is that unless you/we/they/DCMS/Ofcom/Uncle Tom Cobbley sort out the ‘’’politics’’’ implementing the advice ends up the same trying to push a 3 ton rock up Ben Nevis.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Onwards and Upwards ----- monkeee magic & goodwill to all mankind</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Nick H Dumpty - Chairman / UK Crying in the Wilderness Society</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman. commedia.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman. commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bill Best<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 April 2017 09:36<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> ><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom - tomorrow</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Ian<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I again draw your attention to Ofcom's consultation "Community radio: future licensing and technical policy" published on 28th October 2016:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>1.4 We anticipate that our current (third) round of licensing will draw to a close in late spring 2017, and that licensing of small-scale DAB services may not commence before 2018. In the interim, we propose to license more analogue services, as well as consider coverage improvements for existing services. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-2/cr-future-licensing" target="_blank">https://www.ofcom.org.uk/ consultations-and-statements/ category-2/cr-future-licensing</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>We will be asking for further clarification of Ofcom's deadline and insisting that Ofcom publishes its response to the technical consultation that Sharon White indicated would be delivered by the end of April.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Operations Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Community Media Association<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://twitter.com/community_media" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/community_ media</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation" target="_blank">https://facebook.com/ CommunityMediaAssociation</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Canstream Internet Radio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.canstream.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><a href="https://twitter.com/canstream" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/canstream</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On 27 April 2017 at 11:34, Ian Hickling <<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div id="yiv2355206287m_-1214527951174057908m_4039253827875625793divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Open message to <span class=yiv2355206287m-1214527951174057908m4039253827875625793247o><span style='background:#DCE6F8'>Bill Best</span></span>:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bill - we wish you all the best in your meeting at Ofcom tomorrow.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Don't forget to stress that there are 243 CR broadcasters out here - and another 160-plus potential Applicants - that have been waiting for a very long tome for news of how Ofcom is going to proceed with serving this market - and for at least some results from the 33 Region 10 and 11 applications.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Thank you.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv2355206287m_-1214527951174057908m_4039253827875625793Signature"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Ian 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