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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Canalside's The Thread [mailto:office@thethread.org.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> 06 February 2017 13:01<br><b>To:</b> 'Canalside's The Thread' <office@thethread.org.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cma-l] BBC local democracy content for the sector?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Am I missing something here ? I thought the very nature of ‘’’news delivery’’’ was that the idea is to hit as many eyes and ears as possible, because if you do you are providing a valuable news service ……..??! is this correct ? or have I wandered off with the fairies ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It’s almost as if someone from the Ivory Towers wakes up in a morning and thinks :- what can we do today to exclude the CMA be it funding or whatever ? what else can we do to make things difficult awkward ? what else can we do to wind em up ? I just can not get my head around any of this at all, it makes no sense !?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As I have said before, I have asked questions of myself thinking that just perhaps somewhere down the line I am going doo-lally ---- the trouble is, I believe I’m the one that is functioning normal and it’s all the others who are bonkers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have asked our committee/council to ask the BBC/Government why couldn’t we have a small share of the 8 Million ? I don’t think we’ve even asked ? I was pushing this back in March/April last year …….. and this next query why oh why is it only for in-print and online ? does it mean that this material will be put in these domains with a sub-title saying ‘’not for broadcast’’ ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Surely, any right minded Minister / Big Chief if they had said ‘’nope, no lolly for you boys’’ would have at least followed it up with ‘’but we will share that material with you to give you a wider focus and wider scope on your local news’’ the way I see it is we haven’t even been offered a crumb.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I’m not being sarcastic here, I am asking a serious question and I would like at least some response to it please, unless of course as I have said …. Am I missing something here ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Do we have an update for members on how the charitable application is going as well ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Oh and by the way this £8 Million … is it ongoing or is it a one off for this year ? if it is ongoing, then 8 Million for 250 Individuals compared to £395,000 for 280 RADIO STATIONS seems a bit lopsided ……….. in fact no, it has gone completely off-piste.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will say it again as I have been saying for 8 years ……….. the only way we will get anywhere is by flexing muscles. We are allowing people to walk all over us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I admit, the end result might be the same even after some argy bargy …….. but at least we’ll feel better AND the Ivory Towers brigade might think twice before shafting us the next time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>First port of call ………….. roll up all the restrictions in a couple of bin bags, dump one load on the DCMS steps in London and the other at Commercial Radio HQ ………. Reason :- no particular reason to be honest except that placing any kind of restrictions on charitable third sector groups is IMMORAL and on a PRINCIPAL is WRONG ………………. PERIOD ! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You do realise that we are as guilty for allowing this to carry on, we are not being true to our sector (charities)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nick Dumpty / President Elect of the UK Wet Lettuce Society<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Terry Lee<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 February 2017 15:49<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] BBC local democracy content for the sector?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I went to a presentation delivered by Matthew Barraclough from the BBC about this in July 2016 (at Centre For Community Journalism, Cardiff). In my notes I wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>-----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i>…<span style='color:black'>Matthew Barraclough from the BBC was answering questions about 2 new BBC initiatives that would specifically appeal to Centre for Community Journalism) C4CJ audience – ‘150 reporters scheme’ (<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/bbc-nma-partnership">http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/bbc-nma-partnership</a>) & ’newsbank’ (mentioned in link also). </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:black'>150 reporters (basically, across UK 150 reporters are funded by the BBC to cover local council meetings etc, but share their news with other local news orgs) scheme… they want to employ new people ‘with relevant experience’.</span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:black'>News-bank – Features local video and audio content produced by BBC, soon after initial broadcast. </span></i><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='color:black'>Both of these schemes <b>are for online and print only</b>, not broadcast. Both are the BBC showing commitment to supporting local journalism. </span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>Not sure if that at all useful!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>Terry Lee<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>PgCTHE, FHEA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white'>Radio LaB Coordinator</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><br><span style='background:white'>University of Bedfordshire</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:#FFFEFE'><a href="mailto:Terry.lee@beds.ac.uk">terry.lee@beds.ac.uk</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=300 height=100 style='width:3.125in;height:1.0416in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D28078.A78B49C0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Clive Glover <<a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a>><br><b>Reply-To: </b>The Community Media Association Discussion List <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 2 February 2017 16:28<br><b>To: </b>The Community Media Association Discussion List <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cma-l] BBC local democracy content for the sector?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Phil <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>This has been bubbling under for a year or so without any noticeable action. It might be something CMA could raise in context of MoU?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>If reporters were only assigned to local papers this would still provide some scope to get them involved in radio too. We have weekly slot for our local newspaper reporters to discuss that week's stories for example.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Clive<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Radio Verulam 92.6FM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>St Albans<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>On 2 Feb 2017, at 12:28, Phil Korbel wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi all<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>BBC to fund 200 local democracy reporters to be based at local papers, reports to come to BBC, and then to 'others'. Does anyone know if our sector will have access to this material? Any chance of any of the posts coming to our stations and other parts of the sector?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2017/02/landmark-bbc-deal-with-regional-press-to-create-up-to-200-jobs-for-local-democracy-reporters/">http://www.prolificnorth.co.uk/2017/02/landmark-bbc-deal-with-regional-press-to-create-up-to-200-jobs-for-local-democracy-reporters/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Fascinating...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>bests<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Phil Korbel FRSA - </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#6AA84F'>Director,</span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Radio Regen, charity no. 1077763 </span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Company Ltd by Guarantee Registered in England and Wales No 3753832. </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.communityradiotoolkit.net/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>www.communityradiotoolkit.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.connecttransmit.org.uk/" target="_blank">www.connecttransmit.org.uk</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Please note that I work at Radio Regen under 2 days a week so responses might not be as quick as we'd like. Many thanks.</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br><br>Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br>Canstream Internet Radio & Video: <a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Mailing list guidelines: <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/">http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>