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<p>At the risk of incurring terminal boredom, can I make the case for careful professional planning?</p>
<p>The very existence of your station relies solely on its ability to reach a commercially-viable audience.<br>
Why not spend time getting this right from the outset?<br>
This has been my chosen niche for some 30-odd years and the basis of one half of our business.<br>
I have lost count of the number of CR stations that we have visited or contacted which for one reason or another are not achieving the coverage they need or asked for - or indeed for which they have been licensed.<br>
An astounding 83% of all currently-operational Community Radio stations fall into that last category - 83%! <br>
Even if you have continual access to pots of money - and who can say that - why waste it on "horrendous fees" paid to Arqiva and the like who seed you as another mobile phone company?<br>
OK - if you're already in operation and not optimally, this is all behind you.<br>
So now's the chance, with Ofcom showing some interest, to properly appraise where you need to improve and hopefully save precious revenue expenditure at the same time.</p>
<p>There are several organisations and individuals who will help you with this - and most like us will look at your situation in initially at no charge.<br>
Get more than one opinion - just as you would if you were costing a large investment project - which this is!<br>
I will always tell Clients if I think they are getting a better/cheaper deal from someone else - even if we feel we can't compete.<br>
We just hate to see people spending hard-earned cash on the wrong things.<br>
Enough said - sorry.</p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Neil Munday <neilm@susyradio.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 January 2017 20:31<br>
<b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022</font>
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<div>Good to hear from you and a Happy New Year to our friends at Eden fm Penrith! </div>
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<div>I'm a little out of touch with Ofcom directly as my Colleague is our direct liaison officially. Keeps it simple! </div>
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<div>I have discussions at an engineering level occasionally, when needs must for some pointers, but that's all. </div>
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<div>This Q of 5km rattles around and around. And we both know from various sites it can become tricky with finding a good location to place a transmitter and antenna without good accessibility and horrendous fees! Sometimes to keep moving locations constantly
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<div>Anyway something to discuss over a jar next time we meet!</div>
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<div>Regards to all and I hope that Cumbria has a good winter this year. </div>
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<div>On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 at 17:21, admin <<a href="mailto:admin@edenfm.co.uk">admin@edenfm.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<span class="gmail_msg" style="font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size:11pt">The whole thing is a cock-up ……………….. however, the
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<b class="gmail_msg"><span lang="EN-US" class="gmail_msg" style="font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class="gmail_msg" style="font-family:'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size:11pt"> Neil Munday [<a class="gmail_msg" href="mailto:neilm@susyradio.com" target="_blank" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">mailto:neilm@susyradio.com</a>]<br class="gmail_msg">
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