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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Let’s be honest with each other ---- the best system is a few paid Staff (the ones who are hands on, on a more regular basis with consistency and continuity) being helped out and assisted by Volunteers, with the ‘volunteer’ focusing on one / maybe two items so as not to end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We believe (as I say) a nice mix (if of course you can afford it)     and so the merry-go-round starts up again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Worth remembering the old adage as well            ‘’What’s a Donkey ?’’                      ‘’a Donkey is a Horse designed by Committee’’<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You have to have a couple of folk upfront steering the Ship, even if it is heading for the rocks – at least you know who to blame<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Onwards and Upwards    Merry Christmas everyone<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff)<br><b>Sent:</b> 18 December 2016 16:29<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List &lt;cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But actually my question was more about this:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&quot;We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee situation is the result.&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Given most community stations are indees run by volunteers, I don't see how it can be avoided that volunteers manage the station? And I don't see why it's a problem?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:19 Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff), &lt;<a href="mailto:rhys.phillips@radiocardiff.org">rhys.phillips@radiocardiff.org</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In a business with paid employees, the word staff is used which is just as general. I don't see why 'volunteer' sounds unprofessional or lacking in confidence. I see it as something to be proud of.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 15:35 Ian Hickling, &lt;<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class=gmailmsg><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=gmailmsg><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Why?<br>&nbsp;Because it's so unprofessional - it doesn't really give anyone any confidence.<br>And it's&nbsp;too vague - about as useful as &quot;a member of the public&quot;.<br>Yes - most of us do what we do without payment because we see a need and we want to fill it - but surely we don't all need to wear the same arbitrary label?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class=gmailmsg><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632Signature"><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Ian Hickling</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Partner</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><br><br><span class=gmailmsg1><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632ecx_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Office: 016 3557 8435&nbsp;&nbsp;(07h to 22h GTS)</span></i></span><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i></span><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</span></i></span><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>&gt; on behalf of Rhys Phillips (Radio Cardiff) &lt;<a href="mailto:rhys.phillips@radiocardiff.org" target="_blank">rhys.phillips@radiocardiff.org</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> 16 December 2016 18:02:03</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">chair@commedia.org.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Ian, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Why do you say 'volunteer' is an awful word? I don't understand your point volunteers effectively managing the station - isn't that the norm for community radio? That there is no paid staff and it's run by volunteers?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:55 Ian Hickling, &lt;<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632m_-837254130604870703divtagdefaultwrapper"><p class=gmailmsg><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=gmailmsg><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>I think we all appreciate your sympathy and&nbsp;advice Lucinda, thank you.<br>In terms of a potential Licence terms breach - we always advise that Ofcom is formally notified as soon as anything untoward happens -&nbsp;and then they can respond to any&nbsp;complainant that they are aware of the problem.<br>The volunteer situation is far more complex and there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.<br>Management is the key - closely aligned with good commercial practice and sound&nbsp;financial common-sense.<br>We see far too many potentially good CR stations where the volunteer (awful word) aspect effectively manages the station - and a camel/committee situation is the result.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=gmailmsg><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632m_-837254130604870703Signature"><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632m-837254130604870703ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Ian Hickling</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632m-837254130604870703ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Partner</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><br><br><span class=gmailmsg1><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632m_-837254130604870703ecx_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632m-837254130604870703ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Office: 016 3557 8435&nbsp;&nbsp;(07h to 22h GTS)</span></i></span><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632m-837254130604870703ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i></span><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=m-3237141722832694325m6785624259309249632m-837254130604870703ecxmsonormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span class=gmailmsg1><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</span></i></span><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632m_-837254130604870703divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>&gt; on behalf of Lucinda Guy &lt;<a href="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">chair@commedia.org.uk</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 December 2016 19:54<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] It's your CMA! Talk to us.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div id="m_-3237141722832694325m_6785624259309249632m_-837254130604870703divtagdefaultwrapper"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear All, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Like many of us, I was saddened to hear the announcement that two community radio stations switch off their transmitters this week. This is a tragedy for the residents of both Spalding and Cheddar, who have lost vital opportunities to have their voices heard, and experience the joy of community radio as both participants and listeners.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The CMA very much wants to help in these situations - but we can't unless we know what is going on. As someone put it to me today, we don't have an alarm in the CMA batcave every time a station is in trouble.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>It may sound obvious, but please let us know how things are for you. For example, if someone has made a formal complaint to Ofcom and you may be in breach of your licence, how you handle the next steps can make a huge difference. If you find yourself in this situation, phone the CMA office straight away, or email Bill and ask his advice. He has helped many licensed stations through these kind of problems..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>If your issue is volunteers then please contact me directly, using the <a href="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">chair@commedia.org.uk</a> email and I will find time to have a chat. Whether you have too many volunteers, not enough, or just the wrong kind, there will be a way through the situation.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>While I'm here I'd like to congratulate both Tulip Radio and Pulse on their achievements over the years. I'm sure that their impact on their local communities will have lasting effects, even if they are not still around to broadcast about it. I wish all their staff, directors and volunteers well with whatever they do next.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Lucinda<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailmsg1><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#444444'>Lucinda Guy</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#444444'><br><span class=gmailmsg1>Chair, Community Media Association</span></span></b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow",sans-serif;color:#444444'><a href="http://" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=96 height=61 style='width:1.0in;height:.6354in' id="_x0000_i1029" src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&amp;id=0B1HkxZuA8SOSNFlIdHgwbnVLbTA&amp;revid=0B1HkxZuA8SOSNE1FUldUSk9wM0FnOVdJNkVjZ2VrKy9ueFB3PQ"></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0C343D'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1030" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aYmlsbGJlc3RjbWFAZ21haWwuY29t&amp;type=zerocontent&amp;guid=776d2a50-8bed-4f04-b8b1-bc19ec31cfae"></span><span class=gmailmsg1><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif;color:#0C343D'>ᐧ</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0C343D'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1031" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aYmlsbGJlc3RjbWFAZ21haWwuY29t&amp;type=zerocontent&amp;guid=60e4cde9-1fa1-4dfb-8b7f-1e28364aafc0"></span><span class=gmailmsg1><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Gadugi",sans-serif;color:#0C343D'>ᐧ</span></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br><br>Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>The cma-l mailin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