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<DIV>Alternatively we can all stop wasting valuable time and energy in fighting
the system. Instead, focus on developing brilliant locally focused
programmes which engage and build your audience. That way you will have
advertisers and sponsors lined up who will cover the cost of your
licences.</DIV>
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<DIV>It’s also much more fun <IMG class="wlEmoticon wlEmoticon-smile"
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<DIV>Happy Friday everyone.</DIV>
<DIV>Pippa</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=office@thethread.org.uk>Canalside's The Thread</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 2, 2016 11:21 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk>'The Community Media
Association Discussion List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cma-l] PPL & PRS for Music Joint Licence for
Community Radio</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Dear
All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>I
suggested to PRS/PPL back in 2011 that would it not make sense for all concerned
to have :-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">1)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>One
collection point<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">2)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>One
fee covering everything<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">3)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>One
fee (be it either a minimum fee or an average fee)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Like
quite a lot of my suggestions over the years, they were dismissed and laughed
at. Very odd though that 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 years later down the line we always end
regurgitating them and tagging them with ‘’ah, that’s not a bad
idea’’ or actually implementing them full stop. Remember that
most do actually agree but fall under the category of the ‘silent
majority’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>If
you would like me to give you a list of those observations, pointers
etc I can do ---- I’m up to 15 at the moment on my list, which
is exactly the same number as my ‘’well I told you so’s’’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Best
if we get to the nitty gritty though<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>We
have to face up to the fact that in all changes of things and tweaks to things
some folk will be slightly better off and some will be slightly worse off
(that’s life) ……………. But alas ----- unless we start working as a team and a
fraternity we will forever be going around in circles and being picked off one
by one and walked on by the authorities.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>I
hope at the AGM this year we actually walk out of the place at 5:30pm with a
clear vision as to what works, what doesn’t work, what
we have concerns about, and most importantly what are we going to do about it,
as whinging for the next 14 Years (me included) is not acceptable. I would also
hope that we stop being nicey nicey all the time and face up to the fact that
sometimes sadly we have to be controversial and we have to say the things that
are maybe not pleasant.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>I’m
afraid with this PRS/PPL malarkey it does drop on my ‘’well I told you so
list’’ unless I have
missed something, we haven’t really gained anything ??? or that’s
how it seems.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>I
hear what Bill is saying and there are some changes to the DAB
malarkey however, the truth is, the majority of us
couldn’t even afford a Yogurt Carton and a piece of string, let alone DAB …… so
it’s a none starter.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>NBR
or whatever you call it in relation to Community Radio HAS TO
GO BON VOYAGE / DUMP IT ! it rubs against everything we stand
for, I have been saying this since day dot. We (Canalside) do not fill this form
in as I refuse to do so. I suggest everyone else (all 270) do exactly the same.
It isn’t NET it is GROSS …………. And Gross has no bearing on what we
do.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>We
(Community Radio) are charitable, With some actually fully fledged charities,
all not-for-profit and the rules that we operate under (or is that
Straight-Jacket?) means we do exactly what it says on the
Can/Tin.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>With
this in mind (I repeat) come the end of the financial year be that in our case
November but others maybe April the end result is = not a Pot to Pee in. What do
PRS/PPL/DCMS etc not understand about that ?? it seems quite simple to
grasp.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Our
report is NOTHING TO REPORT apart from the fact on average we play 9 songs
per-hour. If that changes we will inform PRS/PPL we shouldn’t
have to keep informing them every 12 Months.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Come
November our Pockets are empty.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>I
didn’t really fill the consultation in for a number of reasons
:-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo4"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">1)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>They
already know my/our thoughts on this as I have told them directly on at least 20
occasions since 2008<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo4"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">2)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>It
isn’t a consultation really coz the folk at the other end aren’t reading it, nor
are they listening<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo4"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">3)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>The
Agenda (if we are being honest with each other) couldn’t really give a flying
cactus about us, it was more for making things easier for
PRS/PPL not actually a
crime, but hey, can we not work together on this please ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo4"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">4)<SPAN
style='FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman"'>
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>And
finally --- when Lucy and Laura (who are two lovely people may I add) were in
Birmingham, the whole exercise was pointless. Just like all the other
nonsenses ie:- BBC man etc etc we sit
for an hour being told what the rules are (we already know the rules)(in fact I
know them better than the authorities) they tell more small
print, yet again what we already know and then hey presto we get to Bingo time
and we’ve run out of time because someone has a Train to catch. This is NOT a
consultation, it is a stitch up. As long as we tip toe and pussyfoot along with
it we will for ever be on the receiving end.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>My
suggestion is a couple of Grand (£1600 - £2000) for the LOT ……….. this includes
the FM and Internet for both and in our case here at Canalside – if we wish to
run a small 100/200 stream training facility for the youngsters that gets
chucked in for free. We make no money from this whatsoever but they charge us.
We feel so strongly about it that we will possibly be stopping the payments now
as this consultation seems to have achieved not much at
all.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Finally,
there is NO REPORTING as there is nothing to report. When we have paid all of
our bills we end up with not a sausage and then we start afresh the following
year.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>This
is all plain sailing and common sense to me ….. trouble is when Community Radio
started Common sense went out the window.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Absolutely
finally I would like to put my suggestion forward and ask if the CMA and Members
will back it. If not, then that’s fine, but a word of warning ---- you/we are
now at a crossroads, get some fire in your bellies (take note) or else Community
Radio in the next number of years in the main will start to fade away, and that
would be a travesty after all the hard graft we have each put
in.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Obviously,
those just on T’internet would pay about £600 quid-dish ??<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Just
done the Maths, and as you know I’m not very good at Maths (nor English
LOL) and to my calculation 270 x £2000 = £540,000 unless
I have the decimal point in the wrong place (sorry if I have got this
wrong)
that’s not a bad little guaranteed tickle though for
Chrimbo<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>Thank
you<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'>H
Dumpty / Doormat FM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: windowtext; mso-fareast-language: en-us'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ian
Hickling<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 December 2016 17:17<BR><B>To:</B> The Community
Media Association Discussion List
<cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cma-l] PPL &
PRS for Music Joint Licence for Community
Radio<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>That's Stanford University
and US law - no relevance over here fortunately.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style='FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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Hickling</SPAN><SPAN
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> </SPAN><A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> <</SPAN><A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>> on behalf of
Tony Bailey <</SPAN><A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
01 December 2016 16:39:26<BR><B>To:</B> </SPAN><A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</SPAN></A><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [cma-l] PPL & PRS for Music Joint Licence for Community Radio</SPAN>
<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The term "licence" or "license" is used by an authority but
it has also been used to give rights under an agreement:<BR><BR><A
href="http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/introduction/permission-tools-licenses-and-releases/">http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/introduction/permission-tools-licenses-and-releases/</A><BR><BR>Tony
Bailey<BR><BR>On 01/12/16 14:03, Ian Hickling wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>That's very informative - thank you.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>But they've left out (or - Heaven forbid - ignored) two important aspects
of the responses to their Joint Consultation:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>1 - If this is a Licence - as opposed to a Service Charge - why isn't it
issued by the only Licensing Authority in the system - which is Ofcom?
PRSfM and PPL are commercial businesses - not Licensing
Authorities<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>2 - Despite many requests - there is still no categorical statement as to
why PRSfM and PPL are entitled in Law to claim these payments - and precisely
where this is written in UK Legislation.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P>Sorry - I know I've asked this many times before - but it's something we do
need to have laid before us - and by the very people who are making these
far-reaching demands.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>My feeling is that broadcasters large and small who part with their
hard-earned cash before being happy with the answers are rather
unwise.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>This isn't going to go away.<BR>It makes no odds to us - we don't pay these
charges - it's you out there, our friends and loyal Clients, that I'm
concerned about.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=ecxmsonormal>Ian Hickling<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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target=_blank><I><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; COLOR: black">Office: 016
3557 8435 (07h to 22h GTS)</SPAN></I></A><SPAN class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN
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<P class=ecxmsonormal><A href="http://www.transplanuk.com/"
target=_blank><I><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; COLOR: black">Car: 075
3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</SPAN></I></A><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><SPAN
style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxmsonormal><A href="http://www.transplanuk.com/"
target=_blank><I><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; COLOR: black">6 Horn
Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</SPAN></I></A><SPAN
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style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV>
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