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<p><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Alex - I know I'm being simplistic here - but your last sentence seems to sum up the entire situation for me:</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">"..... </span><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> applicants should have been able to
argue their case before a Copyright Tribunal, but of course none could have taken the financial risk involved, and so none had an effective legal remedy other than to accept being shafted......"</span></font><br>
<font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14.6667px;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Why are we all just lying</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> down and having these so-called
"Royalty Societies" walk all over us?<br>
Why is everyone content to accept that "It's Copyright"?<br>
Where please is it precisely written in any legislation that these two commercial organisations are entitled to demand what they like and claim that it's a "Licence"?</span></span></font></p>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <tlr@gairloch.co.uk><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 September 2016 15:59<br>
<b>To:</b> office@thethread.org.uk; 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] ONE FOR THE WEEKEND</font>
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<span style="color:#1F497D">I entirely agree with you about the alternative delivery means.</span></p>
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<span style="color:#1F497D">Ofcom permitting, I could quadruple my potential FM audience by adding another FM relay, and there would be no change to the PPL/PRS minimum charges, yet if add a DAB service that is serving only the same population as the FM service,
or add an Internet simulcast to reach a few dozen extra souls, they pile extra charges on the minimum fee.</span></p>
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<span style="color:#1F497D">And PPL’s attitude to charging for the DAB trials was truly shameful – I know it was the last straw for some who would otherwise have been keen to take part in trials. A clear case where in a just world the applicants should have
been able to argue their case before a Copyright Tribunal, but of course none could have taken the financial risk involved, and so none had an effective legal remedy other than to accept being shafted.</span></p>
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<span style="color:#1F497D">Alex</span></p>
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<b><span lang="EN-US" style="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style=""> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Canalside's The Thread<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 September 2016 16:06<br>
<b>To:</b> 'The Community Media Association Discussion List' <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] ONE FOR THE WEEKEND</span></p>
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One final one for the weekend</p>
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All this baloney about FM / DAB / Internet / Yoghurt Carton and Piece of String it’s a nonsense. Just admit that it’s a legalised money making racket.</p>
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If there are 1000 people and all of them are listening to Canalside Radio … they will be listening via FM, or if at home / out of the area and stationary via the Internet OR on an app / phone or if we had it by DAB etc etc it is still one person
listening plus another 999. The key word here is OR not AND !</p>
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It is the same person, they are just listening via a different means. Why does anyone (even Commercial Radio) have to pay for all of these things separately ? I simply don’t get it ? well I do … it’s just Daylight robbery. It’s not 3000 folk listening,
it’s still 1000</p>
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It should be in our case a charge …. Fixed fee, and this covers the lot whether we are on one, both or all three or four ………….. I have never ever ever ever listened to the Radio via FM, Internet and DAB all at the same time.</p>
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What was all that cock and bull malarkey regarding the trials ….. they were even wanting to charge OTT on the trials … it ended up where about 20 chucked the towel in before they even started …………………….end result = everyone lost out. Some didn’t do the tirial
and PRS/PPL lost revenue</p>
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Surely a low charge was the easiest solution.</p>
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I think something was sorted, but of course we had to go through the 10 round boxing match to get there.</p>
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The mind boggles ?</p>
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Have a good weekend everyone</p>
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Nick</p>
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