<div dir="ltr">Hi............................I would add this comment but slightly on a different tack in regard to the proposed new joint PPL / PRS licence proposals.  LET US NOT FORGET the highly unfair tariffs that made undertaking RSL&#39;s so stupidly expensive. Problem is that once you have gained your full time licence its easy to forget the cross most of us have had to suffer in paying what were very inflated rates for short term low power temporary broadcast licenses. I always felt that this was almost a case for investigation by the Office of Fair Trading.  Prior to our full licence we did 18 RSL&#39;s and were involved with perhaps as many again for other groups. That amounts to a huge pile of cash for the music licenses involved which I and many colleagues have deemed as very unfair. Perhaps we can now have a simple, cheap ticket in the form of a licence for broadcast music of perhaps just a few hundred pounds in order to encourage would be legal experimental broadcasters not as in the current regime of perhaps two and a half thousand pounds.  Three points................Due to the high RSL licence costs why can&#39;t it be deemed that all these very expensive licenses were in fact mis sold. PPI all over again!! Secondly, I know of no cases where the illegal broadcasters have been taken to court for non payment of fees. That has always seemed most strange to me seeing as the &#39;music police&#39; have always been so pro active over the charging of licence fees. Lastly, as the number of radio stations grows to the point where the total exceed the number of possible listeners as the number of broadcasters rises then shouldn&#39;t the fees get cheaper. This does fall down on the point that perhaps &#39;our dear listeners&#39; are enjoying a number of radio stations simultaneously!<div><br></div><div>Some points for discussion I think.</div><div>Colin Pearse / SUSY Radio / Reigate &amp; Crawley😊</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 July 2016 at 23:33, Eddie Stuart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:eddie@kcr.fm" target="_blank">eddie@kcr.fm</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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     Hi Ian,<br>
    <br>
    Yup - Agreed NBR etc for PPL/PRS calculations - but I was pointing
    out to Nick that a flat £2K would be more than we currently pay and
    for us would be a sizeable %age increase.... even against our total
    income<br>
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    The downside of having been a Community Part-Time Opt-Out from the
    local lLR station is that most of our licence fees etc were covered
    - now we are on our own, it&#39;s great, but reality comes crashing in -
    so the £12K will be &amp; is increasing!<br>
    <br>
    However, we&#39;ve upped our total income in 18 months from £9K pa to
    £12K pa - so we could well do without what to us would be another
    hit if PPL/PRS has an unbudgeted jump to £2K in 6 months time.....<span class=""><br>
    <br>
    Eddie<br>
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    </span><div><div class="h5"><div>On 01/07/16 22:15, Ian Hickling wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000">It&#39;s not &quot;Turnover&quot; Eddie -
          it&#39;s &quot;Net Revenue&quot; - what you have left after you&#39;ve paid all
          the operating costs.<br>
          Not a lot?</font><br>
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          <hr>To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>
          From: <a href="mailto:eddie@kcr.fm" target="_blank">eddie@kcr.fm</a><br>
          Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:15:02 +0100<br>
          Subject: Re: [cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences<br>
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          Hmm - Our normal turnover - in total - is only about
          £12K........ :-)<br>
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          Eddie<br>
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          <pre>KCR broadcasts across Moray and beyond on 107.7FM
and to the world on the internet at <a href="http://kcr.fm" target="_blank">http://kcr.fm</a>

KCR is the operating name of Keith Community Radio Ltd.
Registered in Scotland: No SC 173805
Registered Office: 59a Land Street, Keith, Banffshire, AB55 5AN</pre>
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          <div>On 30/06/16 14:59, Canalside&#39;s
            The Thread wrote:<br>
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          <blockquote><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I
                have suggested £2000 pounds for the lot ! as a top
                figure. When I say the lot, this includes both FM and
                Internet and ALL on one licence, including D.A.B.     if
                we get it </span></font></blockquote>
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