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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><div><font color="#000000">I don't think there's a need for a lot of discussion really.<br>It should be mandatory for every presenter to use headphones while speaking and cueing tracks.</font></div><div><font color="#000000">Control of levels again should be properly managed by correct training and </font>supervision - no excuse there.<br><font color="#000000">We've always advocated listening off air as the one way to ensure that what you're broadcasting is as it should be.<br>Any other format leave you unaware of a large number of potential problems.</font></div><div><font color="#000000">If you have a latency greater than say 30ms then it can be uncomfortable to listen to your own speech off air - so desk output is perfectly acceptable for that situation.<br>Ideally in that situation you should have a system that is activated by any open mic fader (as your studio monitor muting system is) and switches seamlessly.</font></div><div><font color="#000000">Anyone using it should be made aware of what happens.<br id="FontBreak"></font>Not too hard?<br><br><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Ian Hickling</span></span><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);line-height:17.9867px;line-height:17.9867px;"></span></font></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial;"><font face="Calibri" size="3">Partner</font></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;line-height:22.72px;"><br style="line-height:22.72px;"><br style="line-height:22.72px;"><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank" style="line-height:22.72px;font-weight:inherit;color:blue;cursor:pointer;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;color:rgb(17, 85, 204);text-decoration:none;"><img border="0" id="ecx_x0000_i1025" src="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2SkDsnIzSZgRbNnNKBSiwxiFhFQWRGV55mTjVL23fulnJpstZmYxeKrrYefY4qxiSgkMrAETld64XINLXCsujE_zI5gAsQyWeCWvHixcrNYtar3Sij4YlVBgN2NSQ-n2DsgZvrnpWZlfwCQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png" style="line-height:22.72px;border:none;"></span></a></span></p><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><font size="2"><i style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Office: 016 3557 8435 (07h to 22h GTS)</span></i><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);line-height:17.9867px;"></span></font></p></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><font size="2"><i style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);">Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i><span style="line-height:17.9867px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);"></span></font></p></div><div style="line-height:21.3px;color:rgb(68, 68, 68);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><i style="line-height:22.72px;"><span style="line-height:22.72px;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);"><font size="2">6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</font></span></i></p></div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 20:36:31 +0100<br>From: serge@rwsfm.co.uk<br>To: mike@g1sbn.freeserve.co.uk; cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Radio Link Transmission systems<br><br>
Our automation computer goes through the on-air desks like any other source, so as long as the four player and IRN faders are left up, audio will go out. So far, it's worked for us pretty reliably.<BR>Serge Auckland<BR>RWSfm 103.3<BR>Community Radio for Bury and Beyond<BR><blockquote>On 06 June 2016 at 17:04 Mike Davison <mike@g1sbn.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:<br><br>We have off-air monitoring setup on our desk, meter following monitoring and is useful to make sure you've activated the auto feed computer via the studio then through the switching desk and not left the auto feed active on the link transmitter only in splendid isolation. Now I wonder who has fallen foul of this........<BR>Mike Davison<br><BR><br><div class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-cite-prefix">On 06/06/2016 15:47, Serge Auckland wrote:<br></div><blockquote><blockquote>I think it’s good practice to listen off-air, as this is an immediate check on whether the signal’s going out properly. However, on our main desks, metering follows monitoring (as otherwise people get confused), and I’m always banging on to our presenters about keeping levels below PPM6, and when monitoring off-air, levels are always constant due to our Optimod doing its stuff.<BR>Consequently, all except for a couple of our more experienced presenters monitor off-desk rather than off-air. (and still don’t control levels properly.....hurrumph!)<BR>Serge Auckland<BR>Chief Engineer<BR>RWSfm 103.3<BR>Community Radio for Bury and Beyond<BR></blockquote><br><BR><blockquote>On 06 June 2016 at 12:57 Geoff Rogers <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geoff@susyradio.com"><geoff@susyradio.com></a> wrote:<br><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="ecxox-b6b8173182-ox-bd149bb39c-gmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxox-b6b8173182-ox-bd149bb39c-gmail_quote">On 2 June 2016 at 23:15, Two Lochs Radio <<a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" target="_blank">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote><div>Does anybody routinely listen off-air in the studio? I have never come across any station that does that. It's good to monitor it of course, typically a radio in the kitchen or reception permanently playing, and it should be an option for the studio to check output, but am I alone in thinking it unusual to listen off-air as a matter of routine in the studio?<br><BR></div></blockquote><div>We do, and always have done. </div><div><br></div><div>Until recently the commercial station I work for also did the same.</div><div><br></div><div>It is not off putting at all provided there are no delays (we use a Band I analog link), and it does give you an idea as to how you sound on air.</div><div><br></div><div>Geoff</div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> <br> Reply - <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br> <br> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br> Twitter: <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://twitter.com/community_media" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br> <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br> Canstream Internet Radio & Video: <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> <br> Mailing list guidelines: <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> <br> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br> <a class="ecxox-b6b8173182-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a></blockquote><br> <br><pre>_______________________________________________
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