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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Don’t quite understand your point Ian – the encoding/decoding would be needed for fibre or for air transmission, and in practice the figures are similar. But either way those delays aren’t significant – the codec delays aren’t anything like as long as you imagine. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A typical home computer will encode and transmit data in sub-millisecond times. High quality wireless gear is also sub-millisecond, link-to-link including all processing. For example a simple self-contained Motorola PTP800 has a latency of 115us under maximum load. Specialist gear manages sub-microsecond levels of latency – for example at higher frequencies the Solectek SkyWayEB can put through 2.5Gbps with a basic latency of just 20ns! Even their more basic links do 7us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The underlying transit time for 240km from London to Brussels through the air would be about 0.8ms, through a single-mode fibre (which is the sort that would be used) would be about 1.2ms, so that difference could conceivably make a difference to the punters as Glyn suggests. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>On a 100km air path they will have to allow a pretty large fade margin for heavy rain, but that would only have the effect of lowering the bandwidth, it wouldn’t affect the latency.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>But more than the basic latency, I’d guess it’s likely that greater jitter and variable delays could occur through third-party network carriers, unless ‘dark fibre’ is rented, and internationally that is still super-expensive compared to a wireless link. I should think the attraction of this system to users is a consistent latency performance under their control (and also avoiding the risks of someone else intentionally delaying the traffic?). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Of course, whether high-frequency trading should be allowed at all is a more interesting and involved question, but not one for CMA!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br><b>Sent:</b> 22 March 2016 14:44<br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] ever Community Radio Mast?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Nice idea - but encoding and decoding latency is way in excess of any analogue/RF system!</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white;background-image:initial;background-attachment:initial;background-size:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-position:initial;background-repeat:initial'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Ian Hickling</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Partner</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><br><br></span><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1155CC;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=150 height=150 id="ecx_x005f_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D1845B.764EA150" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Office: 016 3557 8435 (07h to 22h GTS)</span></i><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:17.05pt;background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</span></i><span style='color:#444444'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 14:22:18 +0000<br>From: info@a-bc.co.uk<br>To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Tallest ever Community Radio Mast?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I understand it's all about latency. Apparently the signals travel much slower in fibre (approx 0.7 speed of light I'm told). So if microwave goes close to speed of light, they gain themselves 3ms over 1000km ignoring equipment latency which I guess would be in ns range.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All this so they can "cheat" and buy/sell knowing what the price will be in a few milliseconds time. Still, at least it's creating something real (ie: investment in a humongous mast). World's gone mad!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Glyn<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On 22 March 2016 at 12:56, Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <</span><a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>tlr@gairloch.co.uk</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>With a 100km+ path they would need masts of at least 250m at either side purely to overcome the curvature of the earth.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>They’re using 2.4- 3.7m dishes at 6GHz with an 0.9 degree beamwidth, and at maximum wind they put several tonne-metres of twist on the mast, so it will certainly need to be pretty stable, but I guess they will have calculated all that out. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>NB the bigger dishes alone weigh in almost half a tonne each, and a max wind load of about 2.5 tonnes each – and they’re putting 4 on one side all above 280 metres – that’s like putting the weight and wind area of several small cars at the top!</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>With a 45dB gain and a beam crossing the channel lengthways towards Ostend (about 110km), they’ll probably manage a several Gbps link, but if they are ‘high frequency traders’ I imagine they are also as interested in getting a link with the shortest and most stable possible latency, more than a huge bandwidth. </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I guess a direct fibre optic would outperform this, but maybe would be far more expensive to lay (including all the legal consents and becoming a telecoms operator etc).</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Alex</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</span></a><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</span></a><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Bailey<br><b>Sent:</b> 22 March 2016 12:03<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</span></a><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Tallest ever Community Radio Mast?</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Yes, Ian,<br><br>Why Richborough? it appears to have a mixed history, with a Roman site and a coal fired power station, now proposed as a green energy site and Grid interconnector to Belgium. I recall the problems with planning permission when the IBA wanted to install the East Kent AM mast and this proposal looks high enough for Long Wave! <br><br>Presumably the height is due to a need to do it in one hop, since repeaters would slow it down and would probably not be faster than fibre cable (the report indicates that data speed is the requirement). It would need to be a guyed mast to avoid wind shifting the beam, are they sure that no-one is installing wind turbines anywhere on the route? It will also need aircraft warning lights so will be very visible at night.<br><br>Tony Bailey<br><br>On 22/03/16 09:17, Ian Hickling wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I think a seasonal pinch of salt might be wise. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I wonder if they have any idea how much these things cost - and how they can be used in a real-life situation?<br>I would have thought we have adequate ways of sending material across the Channel very cheaply already.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ian Hickling<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Partner<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>Office: 016 3557 8435 (07h to 22h GTS)</span></i></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>Car: 075 3098 0115 (only responds when driving)</span></i></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</span></i></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><o:p></o:p></span></a></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span class=MsoHyperlink><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:black;text-decoration:none'><hr size=3 width="100%" align=center></span></a></span></span></div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 18:55:31 +0000<br>From: </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>info@a-bc.co.uk</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><br>To: </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><br>Subject: [cma-l] Tallest ever Community Radio Mast?</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>Interesting story from Alwyn on the MB21 discussion forum - don't think it's first of April yet...: </span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>http//</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>planning.dover.gov.uk</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><br><br>Application reference 16/00044<br><br>An application for a 320m high 3m face width mast at Richborough, which it is proposed will host free of charge a community radio station for East Kent.<br><br>The reason for such largesse? The mast will form part of a shortened microwave path to mainland Europe for high frequency trading.<br><br>Believe it or not, a second application is on the way from a competitor in this business for a 305m high mast, also at Richborough, also offering free hosting of community radio:<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>http://www.kefmast.co.uk</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/01/high-frequency-traders-turn-rural-kent-into-telecoms-battleground</span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'>What a shame there's "no frequencies available". </span></a><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;text-decoration:none'><br>_______________________________________________ Reply - 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