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<div>Absolutely exasperated seeing some of these postings.</div>
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<div>As James Cridland says, who could seriously be against an extension of broadcasting choice?</div>
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<div>Kind of worrying sometimes, that the minds that are currently engaged in community radio are, in fact, pretty closed.</div>
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On 8 Mar 2016, 13:52, James Cridland <<a href="mailto:james@cridland.net">james@cridland.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I think you misunderstand. It was a 9 month technical trial. I am now arguing that it is no longer a technical trial, and that Ofcom are just letting these muxes continue on-air while they work out what to do next. Good for listeners. Good for those people
who gambled successfully to run those muxes. I can't see the downside.</div>
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<div>But, this being the community radio list, don't let me stand in the way of more gripes and moans about Ofcom and how desperately unfair life is in general. We haven't heard how much PRS and PPL are going to charge yet! A rich seam!</div>
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<div>In separate news, I'm really impressed at the quality of radio from the community radio sector here in Australia. I visited Bay FM in Byron Bay a few weeks ago, who had massively impressive news gathering, and 4ZZZ in Brisbane also has tremendous and unexpected
programming (a fascinating computer games news show the other day). 4ZZZ appears to directly feed the local ABC with staff, and similarly many of the local ABC staff are also involved with 4ZZZ too. I've yet to hear anyone moan about ACMA, much less whine
about the general unfairness of everything. Seems that people just get on and make great radio, with the same lack of resource as the UK manages on, by the way.</div>
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<div>Much of the qualifying criteria were technical and designed so that Ofcom could gain empirical data, therefore it’s a technical trial.</div>
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<div>If it were a business feasibility study that would be structured very differently and it could be 90% completed without the need for a trial.</div>
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<div>It's perfectly acceptable to run a trial and then have an assessment period to analyse the data. It’s also fully understandable to allow the existing services to continue; we wouldn’t expect anything less of course.</div>
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<div>However, if your conjecture regarding plurality is right then the only reason for extending the trial is to stress test the stations and multiplex operators. Putting it bluntly, the actual reason for the trial is to find out how many will go bust.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">In a stakeholder meeting, I asked (when these were first advertised) whether they'd really be pulled off after nine months, denying audiences the additional choice they may have become accustomed to. Ofcom wriggled a bit in their answer, but
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<p dir="ltr">>As this is a technical feasibility trial how is extending it to 3 years going to give a significantly better outcome?<</p>
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<p dir="ltr">It isn't. The actual technical feasibility trial is over; at least, without making a few changes to the multiplexes, Ofcom won't learn more over the next two years. That's not the point really.</p>
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<p dir="ltr">It's worthwhile examining why Ofcom exists. <a href="http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/what-is-ofcom/statutory-duties-and-regulatory-principles/" target="_blank">
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/what-is-ofcom/statutory-duties-and-regulatory-principles/</a> - it is there to ensure a wide range of services and a plurality of providers. Turning off services while men in suits look at broadcast law and at broadcast field strengths
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<p dir="ltr">So, Ofcom has elected not to remove the additional choice to listeners that these small-scale multiplexes offer. They now have two years to look at the results of the data and then at the legislation. It's the right choice for the listener, and
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<div>Going in everyone concerned knew and expected it to be a 9 month trial.</div>
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<div>If anything this extension could be seen as a testament as to possible success and the future off it. The government is already considering the longer term implementation and don't want those current stations / multiplex holders to stop and have to restart.</div>
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<div>At the stakeholder meeting I pushed the DCMS for an understanding of the timescales involved before legislation is in place to enable others to take advantage of the opportunity of small scale DAB. Whilst they wouldn't be held to a deadline or timeframe
at that time, they confirmed to me that they / the government are keen to make it as quick as feasible. But we all know that these things can take as long as they take.</div>
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<div>This is a matter that the CMA will be taking up and pressing the DCMS & Ofcom for a timetable, as well as consulting with members for the best outcome for the community media sector. I can confirm that the CMA has already started conversations both with
PPL and PRS in regard to the music licenses for small scale DAB.</div>
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<div>They are extending it by 2 years (so max would be 2 years 9 months), I assume (note I) because they believe they can get the legislation in place before then. They see it akin to the pilot project for community radio, which I believe the CR order was in
place before the trial licenses expired? (a bit before my time).</div>
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<div>Its worth mentioning most of this is in relation to the legislation involved with licenses multiplexes NOT services (eg stations), again if you have a small scale or even local / regional DAB service in your area or where you would like to broadcast you
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<div>Firstly, small scale DAB operations based their business model on a 9 month trial. The calculation of ROI over nearly 3 years is very different from 9 months. </div>
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<div>The delay puts the licensing of small scale DAB very close to a potential round 4. So unless community licensing is concurrent with small scale DAB, stations will have to choose their platform without full knowledge of the other.</div>
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<div>Anyone of the other options I believe is preferable to extending the deadline. </div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [cma-l] Ofcom: 10th March, DCMS: 11th March<br>
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<div>At its inception it was a 9month trail, and its DCMS who have decided to extend it for an additional 2 years.</div>
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<div>This is more so that the current stations dont fall off the trail whilst the government puts the legislation together to enable Small Scale DAB to happen.</div>
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<div>No new multiplex licenses will be issued until that time, HOWEVER new services (stations) can appear on multiplexes if they have the space.</div>
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<div>I was recently at the Digital Radio stakeholder meeting representing the CMA and put some of these questions direct to the DCMS.</div>
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<p dir="ltr">Just the fact that if we had known that the trial for DAB was going on for 2 year and 9 months we would have applied. It makes the costing more reasonable for us and i am sure many other stations and do they think that its working due to extending
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