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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 February 2016 17:59<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] PPL / PRS for
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:21:37
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From: paul@pvg.co.uk<br>
To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] PPL / PRS for Music mini consultation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I've completed the form but my questions are:<br>
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1. Why do fees rise above the rate of inflation every year?<br>
2. About 20 years ago I seem to remember PRS or PPL (or both) would waive their
fee for genuine not-for-profit stations undertaking RSL broadcasts. Why
can't PRS and PPL do the same today for the community radio sector? The
amount of money raised is negligible. Based on information in the public
domain, I estimate that the whole of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s community radio sector
contributes 0.02% of PRS's total income. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>I'm sure lots of other people will
ask the same, and I doubt I'll get much joy but I think it's worth a punt from
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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