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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Alan - I think you must have been duped.<div>This "fan relaying our internet stream without our knowledge" ploy is quite often the pathetic excuse offered by illegal broadcasters when caught.</div><div>Not many "well-meaning fans" would risk prosecution, imprisonment and often worse by installing a powerful transmitter and temporary antenna on a high building - out of loyal devotion to a cause.<br>Internet "broadcasting" is effectively without control in Law - and can't, I suggest, be logically described as "entirely legal".</div><div>Regardless of the perpetrator - or the decency of the cause - the transmission equipment can and will be seized and destroyed and the link you mention scrupulously investigated.<br>All provided - as we have said - Ofcom is motivated or able to act.<br><br><div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="3"><b>Ian Hickling</b><br></font></div><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-size:12pt;" size="3"><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Partner</font></font><br><br><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204);"><img alt="" src="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2SkDsnIzSZgRbNnNKBSiwxiFhFQWRGV55mTjVL23fulnJpstZmYxeKrrYefY4qxiSgkMrAETld64XINLXCsujE_zI5gAsQyWeCWvHixcrNYtar3Sij4YlVBgN2NSQ-n2DsgZvrnpWZlfwCQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></a><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</font></i></div></div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:12:30 +0000<br>From: alan.coote@5digital.co.uk<br>To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] cma-l Digest, Vol 78, Issue 69<br><br><div><div>Very interesting James, I love how nothing really changes. ‘Friends’ of one of my shows used a cassette player connected to the transmitter. Mind you that was back in the 70s. </div></div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div><span id="ecxOLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><p dir="ltr">In most cases, I believe pirate radio stations are entirely legal internet radio stations, and some "well meaning fan" of the station has connected an FM transmitter to a laptop and helpfully rebroadcasts them.</p><p dir="ltr">So, unless there is any evidence linking the transmitter back to the radio station, the station itself can be in decent, quite public buildings without any issue from Ofcom... </p><p dir="ltr">-- <br><a href="http://james.cridland.net" target="_blank">james.cridland.net</a> | @jamescridland<br>
+44 20 7100 1811 | +61 447 692 743</p><p dir="ltr">Sent while mobile; may have been dictated</p><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 28 Oct 2015 6:04 p.m., "Canalside's The Thread" <<a href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk">office@thethread.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><div lang="EN-GB"><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">I think it falls under the category of
scaremongering James.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">By the way, when a Pirate Station is being
‘chased’ … how do they nail them down if they are on the move ? I wasn’t
joking, some do broadcast out of the back of Vans. Also, what sort of power is
the average Pirate Station pumping out ? 25 watts ? 100 watts ? 1000
watts ?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Nick<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></span></font></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;"><a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>James Cridland<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 28 October 2015 17:19<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] cma-l Digest,
Vol 78, Issue 69</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">I once
saw a very grumpy man from Ofcom talking about pirate radio at a TechCon in <u></u>Salford<u></u>.<u></u><u></u></span></font><BR><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">He
claimed that we were minutes away from disaster when a pirate radio station
interfered with aircraft; but I couldn't find a single corroborating source. He
claimed that pirate radio regularly caused tremendous problems for the
emergency services. I can't find any source for this either.<u></u><u></u></span></font><BR><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Indeed,
the only source I can actually find for radio causing trouble for emergency
services is when a listener to Radio 4, in a boat, managed to flick his
microphone on to the emergency channel and rebroadcast The Archers on it.<u></u><u></u></span></font><BR><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">While
they do interfere with licensed broadcasters, I think much of the emergency
"peril" stories are FUD.<u></u><u></u></span></font><BR><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">-- <br><a href="http://james.cridland.net" target="_blank">james.cridland.net</a> | @jamescridland<br><a target="_blank">+44 20 7100 1811</a> | <a target="_blank">+61 447 692 743</a><u></u><u></u></span></font><BR><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Sent
while mobile; may have been dictated<u></u><u></u></span></font><BR><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">On 28 Oct 2015 4:14 p.m., "fantasy office" <<a href="mailto:office@fantasyradio.co.uk" target="_blank">office@fantasyradio.co.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Community radio as we know it - and Pirate Radio as we now know it,
seem very different things.<br>
Remember though, Pirate Radio simply means broadcasting without a licence.
(i.e. illegally)<br><br>
Over twenty years ago, a certain pirate radio station was running for several
years. It certainly provided a service to the community and was very popular.
It was 'busted' a few times, but managed to continue, because it had the
support of the Community. Eventually, the station applied to the IBA and was
granted a licence. It continued to broadcast in much the same way, under the
same name, and continues to this day.<br><br>
Not all pirate radio is bad. And just 'cos you don't have a licence doesn't
mean you have to play hip hop and Rap.<br><br>
If it was not so difficult to do, I'm sure more pirates would like to become
legal. Ofcom could do a lot more to embrace the talented individuals who would
really like to broadcast, and open up new avenues to make it happen.<br><br>
Phil Dawson<br>
FANTASY RADIO 97FM<br>
Devizes,<br>
Wiltshire.<br><br><br>
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1. Re: Pirate Radio (Canalside's The Thread)<br><br><br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:48:53 -0000<br>
From: "Canalside's The Thread" <<a href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk" target="_blank">office@thethread.org.uk</a>><br>
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Richard<br><br>
<br>
I'm 56, I vaguely remember Amy . I always thought it was Ammy ????? or<br>
pronounced Ammy ... not many around in the early 80's I'm not a
Londoner<br>
though.<br><br>
<br>
Hmm ? I just don't think you can be both Community and
Pirate somehow ?<br>
the concepts don't mix. Or at least they don't under the 2001/2002 Community<br>
Radio Bill I could be wrong though ?<br><br>
<br>
Admiral Horatio Wright<br><br>
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On Behalf Of Richard Hilton<br>
Sent: 28 October 2015 13:47<br>
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio<br><br>
<br>
Community Pirate Radio? Those of us of a certain age may well remember<br>
Radio Amy that used to broadcast to <u></u><u></u>London<u></u><u></u>
in (I think!) the early 80's.<br>
The first example of a Community Pirate Station.<br><br>
<br>
<br>
Richard<br><br>
<br>
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On Behalf Of Canalside's The<br>
Thread<br>
Sent: 28 October 2015 12:24<br>
To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio<br><br>
<br>
Ahoy thar ! :-)<br><br>
<br>
Community Pirate Station ???? that's a new one on me Derrick
? I<br>
could be wrong, but the Pirates I have heard as I have travelled around the<br>
Country tend to focused on one style of music or one style of banter or a<br>
topic of promotion ... it is very rare they make programming for the<br>
Community as a whole ?? however, as I have said before, I
could have<br>
missed something or been tuned into the wrong ones.<br><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
When we first started there was a place in Tytherington near the old <u></u>Rugby<u></u><br>
club grounds where for an area of about 1000 yards square you could clearly<br>
pick up a Pirate Station. This is about 8 years ago and the Station was<br>
actually quite proud at being a Pirate (they boasted on-air)
the music<br>
was basically all hip hop and rap and nothing else ... there was bad<br>
language as well in a lot of the material. I listened for about half an hour<br>
and then they disappeared .. I was as high as a kite by the time I'd<br>
finished LOL this was on a Sunday
morning. As a matter of interest<br>
I went back the following Sunday but they weren't there.<br><br>
As it happens I was refereeing an under 18's football match about three<br>
weeks later on a Saturday morning. The rugby pitch is now a footie pitch<br>
hence why I was there . and hey presto . they were there again
another<br>
blast of hip hop and rap. They never mentioned frequency though. Even though<br>
I assumed they were on 102.8 or 102.75 ??? I
returned again on the<br>
Sunday morning and they were there again ! I
tried Mon - Fri<br>
they were not there ... and I did try again after that. I have never heard<br>
them since apart from as I say a few pecks here and there on a weekend. I<br>
don't know, I am only guessing, but it could be them ????<br><br>
<br>
<br>
Saturday and a Sunday we always tend to have a few more '''peck peck peck<br>
pecking''' sounds on our FM Service .... Ofcom have confirmed that it is<br>
possibly Pirate activity Yarrr
! ahoy thar !<br><br>
<br>
And yes, please come onto the message board and say what you feel from the<br>
heart. Replies to the comments ought to be the same without getting personal<br>
or accusing someone of having a rant.<br><br>
<br>
As I have said though, if folk do rant it's no wonder with
the debacle<br>
that we have each had to go through, some worse than others.<br><br>
<br>
Nick Pugwash :-)<br><br>
<br>
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On Behalf Of Derrick Francis<br>
Sent: 27 October 2015 19:57<br>
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio<br><br>
<br>
I for one applaud <u></u><u></u>Roy<u></u><u></u>
for his honest comments, sometime people forget how<br>
things started....<br><br>
<br>
This year Gloucester FM has been celebrating 15 years of broadcasting, GFM<br>
96.6 was born after the "community pirate station" was shut down.
Once they<br>
were taken of air by the authorities it soon became clear, that the station<br>
had to be replaced, the commercial station and the BBC were not playing the<br>
music or interacting with community that GFM serves<br><br>
<br>
I have had many inquiries about applying for a community radio license from<br>
people who run pirate stations, while its their aspiration to be legal, what<br>
we legal station have to go through to continue broadcasting has put them<br>
off and will continue to put them off until funding is available to help<br>
community radio station with their core running costs<br><br>
<br><u></u><u></u>Roy<u></u><u></u>, thank you
for hiring us the kit for our first RSL broadcast in October<br>
2000, without you. we might not be here now, I for one will not forget how<br>
the "community pirate station" inspired me to get GFM on air
legally Emoji<br>
<<a href="https://a.gfx.ms/Emoji_0263A.png" target="_blank">https://a.gfx.ms/Emoji_0263A.png</a>><br><br>
Derrick Francis<br><br>
Chairperson<br><br>
<br>
Gloucester FM 96.6 (GFM 96.6) <a href="http://www.gloucesterfm.com" target="_blank">www.gloucesterfm.com</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.gloucesterfm.com/" target="_blank">http://www.gloucesterfm.com/</a>>
& Android & Iphone<br><br>
The Trust Centre<br><br>
Conduit Street<br><br><u></u><u></u>Gloucester<u></u><u></u><br><br>
GL1 4UX<br><br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:34:11 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio<br><br>
Interesting Robb<br><br>
<br>
The sad thing in all of this is that when I write something like this and it<br>
gets placed on the message board there always seems to be some condescending<br>
clot who says ''he's having a rant''
I think the first thing<br>
everyone needs to learn in Community Radio is that if someone says something<br>
with a bit of fire and passion behind it, it doesn't mean they are having a<br>
rant.<br><br>
<br>
I sussed all this nonsense many Moons ago. The ones that write ''rant'' are<br>
actually in disagreement and they feel that writing that someone is ranting<br>
in someway takes the sting out the tail. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't ..<br>
?? it certainly doesn't wash with me.<br><br>
<br>
I think it is nice and refreshing to see <u></u><u></u>Roy<u></u><u></u>
and Robb expressing their<br>
opinions. I agree with some of it and disagree with other bits, but I<br>
certainly know where they are coming from.<br><br>
I now await patiently for Senor Plonker to put his/her three-pennith worth<br>
in and accuse both Roy and Robb for having a rant. If it is the case ....<br>
then RANT AWAY I SAY<br><br>
<br>
Well done<br><br>
<br>
Nick<br><br>
<br>
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On Behalf Of<br><a href="mailto:robbeden@madasafish.com" target="_blank">robbeden@madasafish.com</a><br>
Sent: 26 October 2015 22:04<br>
To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Pirate Radio<br><br>
<br>
For someone who has been on the receiving end of bad judgement by the GPO,<br>
Radio Authority & Ofcom may I congratulate <u></u><u></u>Roy<u></u><u></u> for his frank assessment.<br>
Pirate Radio has made a significant contribution to broadcasting in this<br>
country & it's sad that politicians don't recognise it. Pirate Radio , not<br>
the BBC, has been the backbone of innovation and others have followed.<br>
Luckily we now have the internet where freedom of expression & creative<br>
thought is at the forefront. The BBC has a fantastic opportunity to embrace<br>
the spirit of pirate radio through the numerous community stations that are<br>
still broadcasting but I fear that they will not grasp the nettle.<br>
Meanwhile, out here in the Cotswolds, our community internet radio station<br>
is coming up to its eighth anniversary, all done without the help of Ofcom<br>
or the BBC, we do it efficiently & cost effectively.<br><br>
<br>
Meanwhile the plodding bureaucrats continue to drag community radio down &<br>
the Community Media Association sits by whilst the industry burns.<br><br>
<br>
The sector needs a complete rethink, it needs support from Ofcom, less<br>
interference & more praise for the sterling work that the thousands of<br>
volunteers put in each week.<br><br>
<br>
Robb Eden<br><br>
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On Behalf Of Roy Parsons<br>
Sent: 26 October 2015 15:41<br>
To: Alan Fransman <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br>
Subject: [cma-l] Pirate Radio<br><br>
<br>
I don't really comment on this forum and this may be my last post.<br><br>
Community radio and pirate radio are forever entwined.<br><br>
<br>
How did Broadcast warehouse ,SBS and Radica your transmission providers get<br>
going????<br><br>
Could I possibly suggest that pirate radio may have been involved in their<br>
transmitter testing and development<br><br>
If you don't understand this comment then then you have no concept of the<br>
evolution of this sector of the broadcast industry and how it has got you on<br>
air today.<br><br>
You should be grateful for Pirate radio or you would not have a <u></u><u></u>UK<u></u><u></u> made<br>
transmitter.<br><br>
<br>
DJ Uncle has been walking around with a Police tracking bracelet on his<br>
ankle after the last arrest.<br><br>
The Police supported his station as did local politicians. But WHY because<br>
it acted as as mouthpiece to calm local flash points.<br><br>
He has tried many times to go legit and has no chance in hell. He is not<br>
your enemy he should be applaulded for his work at great personal cost and<br>
you should work together.<br><br>
<br>
Don't get sniffy with all pirates KISS and XFM where there once.<br><br>
<br>
I would like to state I have not been part of pirate radio, mainly because I<br>
had day jobs in my early 20's with the BBC, Radio Luxemberg 208 and <u></u>Soho<u></u><br>
production studios,<br><br>
So I could hear my recordings on the radio every night anyway.<br><br>
What disturbs me is a lack of understanding of cultures other than your own<br>
comfort zones.<br><br>
A pirate is just this weeks illegal immigrant as far as you all seem to be<br>
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Don't forget illegal is a moving target, it was illegal to be GAY not so<br>
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Thanks and goodnight.<br><br>
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