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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chaps<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Depends what type of apathy you mean. It
comes outside to within, or from within to the outside. I like the Leopards
spots bit however this isn’t entirely true. The apathy comes about in the
main because folk are fed up with banging their head against a brick wall …………
they maybe walk round with the question on the tip of their tongue ‘’what’s
the point ?’’ ‘’nothing gets done’’ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You are now telling us something that is
quite intriguing ……..??
Practical solutions in most cases at this end I do not see as a problem. We
have come forward with many. It seems to boil down to a number of things :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are there any grey areas to manoeuvre in ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Will it upset Commercial Radio ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Does legislation allow for it ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A lack of reason and common sense ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These seem to be the hurdles. I like to believe
we have been talking to the right people at both Ofcom and the DCMS ……….it
doesn’t look good on them if there is another Avenue to get the result
you’d like. We’re back on the topic of rules or guidelines again.
Is ‘IT’ a rule or a guideline ? if it is a
guideline then there is room for discussion, if it is a rule and it is complete
contrary to what you are trying to achieve, then that’s why we are all on
the receiving end of the words ‘’no / because’’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My biggest worry and frustration over the
years has been the fact that there sadly just doesn’t seem to be any
reasoning whatsoever hence = apathy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t personally have apathy as I
like a challenge, I like the discussions, the debates, the arguments, the ding
dongs, the banter, the get togethers … it’s a learning curve and we’re
better people and more knowledgeable for it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think Glynn wrote something to do with
lack of energy ? plenty of energy here chaps ………
we drink 10 pints of Red Bull everyday </span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now then ……………who
have you been speaking to ? any names ? </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> LOL
surely it’s not that simple ? you’re winding us up Ian<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Finally, do you not think something odd
could be going on here ? in otherwords, we have gone round in circles for
so long on many of these matters that those in authority have to keep saying no
to save face. If they applied what we have suggested and it all worked like
clockwork without problems, they’d look silly. Surely we’re all
grown up enough to distant ourselves from the ‘pride before a fall’
rhetoric.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>No one cares anymore, we just want the
relaxing of the gobbledy gook<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 16 October 2015 10:18<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Review of the
approach to community radio Key Commitments</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Apathy maybe?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>The feeling that you can't change the leopard's spots?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>We've proved that by talking positively to the right
people at Ofcom and the DCMS you can get things done.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>But they need to know what the
problems are - and more importantly what you see as the practical solution!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:07:54
+0100<br>
From: info@a-bc.co.uk<br>
To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>
CC: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radio Key Commitments<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>This is massively key for the
sector, but I don't see much conversation/energy on this forum about it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I wonder why?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Glyn<br>
-- <br>
Glyn Roylance - Principal Consultant <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><a href="http://www.a-bc.co.uk/"
target="_blank">Associated Broadcast Consultants</a><br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>On 15 October 2015 at 17:34, CMA-L <<a
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Community radio services broadcasting on FM or AM provide
social gain and other community benefits on a not-for-profit basis.<br>
<br>
Each station is required to provide the service described in its licence, which
is based on the proposals it made during the application process for the
licence.<br>
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These service descriptions recorded in community radio licences are called
‘Key Commitments’.<br>
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This Ofcom consultation seeks views on a proposal to streamline and simplify
the Key Commitments.<br>
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This will free up community radio stations, enabling them to focus on serving
their target communities, adapt better to the changing needs of those
communities, and deliver social gain.<br>
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Ofcom invites written comments on the questions raised in this consultation, to
be submitted by <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>5pm on 21 October 2015</span></b>.
Ofcom strongly prefers to receive responses in electronic format and their web
form will allow you to indicate your data protection preferences and send your
views to the team responsible for this consultation.<br>
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<a href="http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/"
target="_blank">http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/</a><br>
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