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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Yeah - you say that about the 25W transmitter Nick - but as I've pointed out just once or twice before - 37 out of the current 232 CR stations on air have convinced Ofcom that they need more than that - and have got it.<br>100W is not uncommon - one has 850W!<br><div>The time to do it is when you get your frequency and power allocation - after that it gets much harder - but it's still been done.<br>You have to present an argument which says that without the right power allocation you cannot run a viable business.<br><br><div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="3"><b>Ian Hickling</b><br></font></div><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-size:12pt;" size="3"><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Partner</font></font><br><br><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204);"><img alt="" src="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2SkDsnIzSZgRbNnNKBSiwxiFhFQWRGV55mTjVL23fulnJpstZmYxeKrrYefY4qxiSgkMrAETld64XINLXCsujE_zI5gAsQyWeCWvHixcrNYtar3Sij4YlVBgN2NSQ-n2DsgZvrnpWZlfwCQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></a><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</font></i></div></div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: office@thethread.org.uk<br>To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 12:47:47 +0100<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radioKey Commitments<br><br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Richard et al</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I have submitted the ‘rant’
as some in our fraternity will of course call it (I think
not) all I am is merely a person who is sick to death of going
around in a circle for 9 long years arguing and debating the same old debacle
on a ground hog day basis. Commercial Radio influencing decisions and poking
their conks into a project that has NOTHING at all to do with them. I don’t
interfere with them but they have influence on what we do. They seem to be able
to have power boosts, change programming and key commitments at the drop of a
hat and yet we’re trying to work in a straight jacket and jump through
hoops with only a quarter of the resources.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I’ll tell you the biggest
restriction we all/each have A 25 WATT TRANSMITTER
! we don’t need anymore
restrictions, that alone is enough. We’re trying to provide a service to
people and for people who can’t hear us ??? and then they put
restrictions on us
who thought that one up ? a madman !?? </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I try when possible to ad a bit of humour
into the situation because if we didn’t laugh we’d go bonkers. Some
would argue I already have LOL </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">For the record, the submission was made
clearly saying that I don’t care who reads it. I have long gone past all
of that /confidentiality nonsense’ what you
see is what you get, like it or lump it. Too much pussy-footying around, being
walked all over, we need to stand up and be counted with a bit more thrust and
determination. Remember that most of the comments coming back having a pop at
me are from the ‘’I’m alright Jack brigade’’</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Under the confidentiality section I have
written ‘’announce it to the World’’
my name is on it, so we don’t have Mr Anon or Mrs pseudonym facebook or
Mr AKA Twitter …..stand up and be counted.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I notice others on the message board who
also place posts that are quite forthright, I know quite a few of these folk,
they are fine …. They’re just fed up with the going round in
circles as well. Then of course there’s the silent majority. I know this
because they contact me and tell me …. They don’t want the aggro so
don’t get roped in … they still support the sentiment. So let us
not underestimate the ‘will’ to overcome.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I will make my statement one more time.
Yes, we here at Canalside did understand the rules and implications at the
outset (we didn’t agree with them, but hey, such is
life) what we DID NOT EXPECT THOUGH, is to be
arguing about the same things 12 years down the line and listening to hot air
coming from Ministers saying how much they support Community Radio ……………do
something about it then.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I’ll try to copy and paste …….(copy
and rant) </span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Wingdings"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black;">J</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Restrictions = Get Shot of the Lot</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Regulate the spend and not the earn ..
this way there would be technically a limit (it would remain
not-for-profit) money earned would have to be re-invested into the
project and there is an element of protection for Commercial Radio</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Key Commitments ------- most of these
were written (me included) with all good intentions .. but in reality some not
achievable. They contained items that ticked boxes, wouldn’t offend
commercial radio and looked fluffy and nice ……. I was cringing
whilst writing them as I would imagine many others were. We were being pushed
down a road that we didn’t want to go down by the way the rules have been
laid out.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">The final straw for me is seeing people
being hauled over the coals for completely trivial matters and words like ‘investigation’
‘in breach’ etc being attached to
that Station. Completely unacceptable.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Setting the Bar high and ‘’’at
least avin a go’’’ should be commended, not ridiculed if you
fall slightly short. This is obviously one of the reasons why this ‘consultation’
has come about .however, like with everything else it ought to have been done 3
years ago when folk like me and others saw the warning lights flashing. It
would possibly have saved me in total about a month of my life off the e-mail
and phone.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I stick by the word I first mentioned 8
years ago ‘debacle’ I
think this was the word that upset one or two as I was on the receiving end of
a lecture. It of course went straight over my head.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Of course life is about opinions, some
will agree, some will disagree ….but one thing is for sure, if you do
nothing about it, don’t get involved, don’t roll your sleeves up,
you will forever be trodden on.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Time to cut-loose and let Community Radio
really flourish.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">By the way, read the comments from 3
years ago re:-TV ………….. correct again. It
was never going to work and the money ought to have been put into Community
Radio. We’d have a descent Pot, Commercial Radio would be protected (they’d
like that) and we’d only need to rummage through a few
adverts and everyone’s a happy bunny.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I can’t remember the Minister at
the time (Jeremy Hunt possibly?) but my exact words to him
were ‘’don’t you think you ought to be sorting
out Community Radio first, before mIthering with Community TV?’</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">I’ve virtually covered the entry,
but I send it over</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Love you all xxx keep
on truckin’</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;">Sir Hamster Wheel-Wright [University of Pott Shrigley]</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">By the way …… I think Ofcom
have read it as there has been correspondence this morning .and I reckon it’s
food for thought. My command of English isn’t good & sadly I didn’t
get A Level or O Level English as you can see ……. The message is
clear though and that’s what matters.</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;">
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Hilton<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 16 October 2015 09:26<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Review of the
approach to community radioKey Commitments</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;">Glad you have done
this. Is it possible to share your submission as a guide and
encouragement to others to get involved in this vitally important
consultation? </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;">Richard</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Canalside's The Thread<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2015 19:35<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'The Community Media
Association Discussion List'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Review of the
approach to community radio Key Commitments</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Done and Dusted !</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Seek under the headline/title
---- ‘’not pussy-footying
around’’ [part 1 ‘’hot under the
collar’’] [sub clause 4 ‘’haven’t we been
here 20 times before?’’] [sub section 2b ‘’seeing
is believing’’] [clause 5 ‘’it’s
about time’’]</span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Sir Nicholas Henry Hamster Wheel-Wright
[Professor of Community Radio Economics] [University of Pott Shrigley]</span></font></p>
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<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>CMA-L<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2015 17:35<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Review of the
approach to community radio Key Commitments</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Community radio services broadcasting on FM or AM provide social gain
and other community benefits on a not-for-profit basis.<br>
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Each station is required to provide the service described in its licence, which
is based on the proposals it made during the application process for the
licence.<br>
<br>
These service descriptions recorded in community radio licences are called
‘Key Commitments’.<br>
<br>
This Ofcom consultation seeks views on a proposal to streamline and simplify
the Key Commitments.<br>
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This will free up community radio stations, enabling them to focus on serving
their target communities, adapt better to the changing needs of those
communities, and deliver social gain.<br>
<br>
Ofcom invites written comments on the questions raised in this consultation, to
be submitted by <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">5pm on 21 October 2015</span></b>.
Ofcom strongly prefers to receive responses in electronic format and their web
form will allow you to indicate your data protection preferences and send your
views to the team responsible for this consultation.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/" target="_blank">http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/</a><br>
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