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<DIV>Afternoon,</DIV>
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<DIV>Let’s put a positive spin on this ....</DIV>
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<DIV>Ofcom are trying to work with the CR sector to find a ‘lighter touch’
approach to Key Commitments. I bet they were as surprised as we were to
find so many stations in breach, and they could probably do without the workload
generated as a result. My first response would be to look at the way
we write KCs. But Ofcom are going one better than that and are encouraging
us to help them find a new way of reporting & measuring what we do.
The team at Ofcom want to see CR grow and prosper, I’m sure. </DIV>
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<DIV>If enough stations respond to the consultation then our voice will be taken
into consideration. “You’ve got to be in it to win it”.</DIV>
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<DIV>Have a good weekend everyone.</DIV>
<DIV>Pippa</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=office@thethread.org.uk
href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk">Canalside's The Thread</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 16, 2015 2:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">'The Community Media Association
Discussion List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to community radio
KeyCommitments</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Chaps<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Depends what type of
apathy you mean. It comes outside to within, or from within to the outside. I
like the Leopards spots bit however this isn’t entirely true. The apathy comes
about in the main because folk are fed up with banging their head against a
brick wall ………… they maybe walk round with the question on the tip of their
tongue ‘’what’s the point ?’’ ‘’nothing gets done’’
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">You are now telling us
something that is quite intriguing ……..??
Practical solutions in most cases at this end I do not see as a problem. We have
come forward with many. It seems to boil down to a number of things
:-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Are there any grey
areas to manoeuvre in ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Will it upset
Commercial Radio ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Does legislation allow
for it ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">A lack of reason and
common sense ?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">These seem to be the
hurdles. I like to believe we have been talking to the right people at both
Ofcom and the DCMS ……….it doesn’t look good on them if there is another Avenue
to get the result you’d like. We’re back on the topic of rules or guidelines
again. Is ‘IT’ a rule or a guideline ? if it is a
guideline then there is room for discussion, if it is a rule and it is complete
contrary to what you are trying to achieve, then that’s why we are all on the
receiving end of the words ‘’no / because’’<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">My biggest worry and
frustration over the years has been the fact that there sadly just doesn’t seem
to be any reasoning whatsoever hence =
apathy.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">I don’t personally have
apathy as I like a challenge, I like the discussions, the debates, the
arguments, the ding dongs, the banter, the get togethers … it’s a learning curve
and we’re better people and more knowledgeable for
it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">I think Glynn wrote
something to do with lack of energy ? plenty of energy here chaps
……… we drink 10 pints of Red Bull everyday </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=2 face=Wingdings><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: wingdings; COLOR: navy">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Now then ……………who have
you been speaking to ? any names ?
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Wingdings><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: wingdings; COLOR: navy">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">
LOL
surely it’s not that simple ? you’re winding us up
Ian<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Finally, do you not
think something odd could be going on here ? in otherwords, we have gone
round in circles for so long on many of these matters that those in authority
have to keep saying no to save face. If they applied what we have suggested and
it all worked like clockwork without problems, they’d look silly. Surely we’re
all grown up enough to distant ourselves from the ‘pride before a fall’
rhetoric.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">No one cares anymore,
we just want the relaxing of the gobbledy gook<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy">Nick<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Ian Hickling<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 16 October 2015 10:18<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> The Community Media Association
Discussion List<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
cma-l<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [cma-l] Review
of the approach to community radio Key Commitments</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Apathy
maybe?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">The feeling that you can't change
the leopard's spots?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">We've proved that by talking
positively to the right people at Ofcom and the DCMS you can get things
done.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">But they need to know what the
problems are - and more importantly what you see as the practical
solution!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 20:07:54
+0100<BR>From: info@a-bc.co.uk<BR>To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<BR>CC:
cma-l@commedia.org.uk<BR>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Review of the approach to
community radio Key Commitments<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">This is massively key for the
sector, but I don't see much conversation/energy on this forum about it.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">I wonder
why?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Glyn<BR>-- <BR>Glyn Roylance -
Principal Consultant <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"><A href="http://www.a-bc.co.uk/"
target=_blank>Associated Broadcast
Consultants</A><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">On 15 October 2015 at 17:34, CMA-L
<<A href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"
target=_blank>cma-l@commedia.org.uk</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri">Community radio services
broadcasting on FM or AM provide social gain and other community benefits on a
not-for-profit basis.<BR><BR>Each station is required to provide the service
described in its licence, which is based on the proposals it made during the
application process for the licence.<BR><BR>These service descriptions recorded
in community radio licences are called ‘Key Commitments’.<BR><BR>This Ofcom
consultation seeks views on a proposal to streamline and simplify the Key
Commitments.<BR><BR>This will free up community radio stations, enabling them to
focus on serving their target communities, adapt better to the changing needs of
those communities, and deliver social gain.<BR><BR>Ofcom invites written
comments on the questions raised in this consultation, to be submitted by
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">5pm on 21 October 2015</SPAN></B>. Ofcom
strongly prefers to receive responses in electronic format and their web form
will allow you to indicate your data protection preferences and send your views
to the team responsible for this consultation.<BR><BR><A
href="http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/"
target=_blank>http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/key-commitments/</A><BR><BR>\\<BR><BR>Community
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