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</head><body><p>If the officers know what they are doing, they should be happy with you providing a Declaration of Conformity with ICNIRP with the planning application. Because of the large size of VHF FM antennas, it is quite hard to reach recommended maximum dosage for a 25W erp even at close range.</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>The most common rule of thumb limit for incidental exposure is 10mW/cm2. So for 25W to be safe it only needs to be spread over at least 2500 sq cm or 0.25 sq metres. In other words the whole 25W could be spread across your trunk and would just about reach the recommended maximum. <br></p><p><br></p><p>Of course, the radiation pattern from the antenna is usually 360-degrees around for a dipole, so if you stand to one side, you're unlikely to be able to intercept even a quarter of the radiated power without literally hugging the antenna. </p><p><br></p><p>If you're a glutton for punishment, there is a sophisticated calculator at <a href="http://www.vk3um.com/emr%20calculator.html">http://www.vk3um.com/emr calculator.html</a><br></p><p><br></p><p>Of course, when putting an antenna close (say 50 metres or less) to residential property, a much more likely problem, and one that can cause you a lot of grief or loss of reputation, is interference with the radios or TVs of residents, especially cheapy radios or TVs using indoor antennas. TVs can usually be easily fixed with a cheap filter, but crappy radios can be much more of a problem, even if it is actually the fault of a poorly performing radio rather than your transmission exceeding 110dBuV. <br></p><p><br></p><p>Alex<br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>On 30 September 2015 at 17:23 Tony Bailey <ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk> wrote:<br></p><blockquote type="cite"><br><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Oh yes, the old chestnut radiation hazard - not very much even at 100 watts - I did a work up some years ago based on the Radiological Protection Board Info (do they still exist?).  That didn't stop the council paying a consultant who I recall commented on the proposal to reduce the power to 10 watts if anyone was on the roof as over the top, you can't win.<br> <br> Tony Bailey<br> <br> <br> On 30/09/15 12:47, Ian Hickling wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">It's not as easy as that.<div>They have no standard procedure for this type of installation - which is why they are asking for us to provide examples of what other authorities do and what they charge.<br> They are uncertain and nervous - yes - but have expressed a willingness to help once they have the information they are requesting.<br> One of the elements is radiation hazard risk to residents and staff - which we already cover in a document of our own.<br> <br><div><div><strong>Ian Hickling</strong><br></div>Partner<br> <br> <a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank"><img alt=""></a><div><em>Office: 01635 578435  (7am-11pm UK time)</em></div><div><em>Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)</em></div><div><em>6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</em></div></div><br> <br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ronm@bridging-thegap.co.uk">ronm@bridging-thegap.co.uk</a><br> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 12:06:35 +0100<br> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Antenna installation on council building - help<br> <br> Ask for one of their standard agreements, preferably in word doc form ad then amend it to your requirements. They will have various protective clauses in. They won’t stand for deleting any of them…BUT make sure that any you need ( notice on rights of entry, consultation before they take any enforcement action etc) are added.<div><br></div><div>They are probably being awkward because it is an unknown area to them and they are nervous...<br><div><div><div><div><p>Regards and best wishes</p><p>Ron Millet</p><p>Bridging the Gap</p><p>This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the authorised recipient of this message, please destroy this e-mail. Bridging The Gap is not responsible for any viruses received by you and it is the recipients' responsibility to virus scan this e-mail.</p><br></div></div></div></div><br><div><div>On 30 Sep 2015, at 10:58, David Duffy <<a href="mailto:david@theradiopeople.co.uk">david@theradiopeople.co.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><blockquote>Hi Tony,<br> <br> Thanks for this.  Price isn’t the issue.  Hard as it might be to believe, the Estate department for this LA don’t have an agreement suitable - or are using this as a way of derailing the process.  They’ve put the onus back on the community station.  So the station is asking if anyone has ‘been there, done that’ and has a working agreement in place with their local authority they can share.<br> <br> Thanks<br> <br> D<br> <br><blockquote>On 30 Sep 2015, at 10:35, Tony Bailey <<a href="mailto:ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk">ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br> <br> David,<br> <br> Not sure what the problem is - if council sites are run by the Estates department who probably only deal with telecoms companies a high rental charge might be your issue?  As has been said by other respondents you will need to get the ward councillor involved.  If they won't move because of the potential loss of income by letting it cheap I suggest you look for another site or something like a fake flagpole which is grounded and hence not stuck on the fabric of the building!<br> <br> Tony Bailey<br> <br> <br> On 29/09/15 23:16, David Duffy wrote:<br><blockquote>Does anyone have a boilerplate agreement they have used with a local authority.  I’ve had a call from a group whose council has allowed them to site their antenna on a council-owned building.  But the officers tasked with making it happen - are making it difficult for them.  Does anyone have a simple agreement you have used either with a local authority or similar organisation.  Much appreciated.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> <br> David<br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> <br> Reply - 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