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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>We've seen it happen all too often in radio too.]<div>In a effort to make a good impression Applicants offer a great deal - only to find in practice that they can't deliver.</div><div>There is very little guidance available - other from those who have failed earlier.<br><br><div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="3"><b>Ian Hickling</b><br></font></div><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-size:12pt;" size="3"><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Partner</font></font><br><br><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204);"><img alt="" src="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2SkDsnIzSZgRbNnNKBSiwxiFhFQWRGV55mTjVL23fulnJpstZmYxeKrrYefY4qxiSgkMrAETld64XINLXCsujE_zI5gAsQyWeCWvHixcrNYtar3Sij4YlVBgN2NSQ-n2DsgZvrnpWZlfwCQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></a><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</font></i></div></div><br><br><div>> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:25:50 +0100<br>> From: chris@communitytvtrust.org<br>> To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Confession, regulation and expection<br>> <br>> Looking at Local Television and London Live in particular, just a few months<br>> into<br>> their operation (reputedly at an annual budget of £35m!!), London Live asked<br>> Ofcom for permission to reduce its local content. Flabbergasted doesn't begin<br>> to cover my reaction.<br>> I was part of the bidding process for the London licence with Made Television <br>> and obviously the process was extensive. How come the winner of the bid failed <br>> within a few months to deliver what it said it would and still holds the<br>> licence?<br>> Some regulator.<br>> <br>> Chris Haydon<br>> Director<br>> Community TV Trust <br>> www.communitytvtrust.org<br>> <br>> > On 14 September 2015 at 13:58 Shankar Meembat <shankar.meembat@exaget.com><br>> > wrote:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > I am an outsider to this process with no experience in this area, so pardon<br>> > the naivety.<br>> > <br>> > "If Ofcom accepts that you have shown without reasonable doubt that you can<br>> > provide an efficient transmission system and you have the funds to achieve<br>> > that’ - seems to indicate that the application process requires that the<br>> > costing is already estimated prior to submitting the application and submitted<br>> > as part of the process ? <br>> > <br>> > What then causes the variation ? Ofcom awarding different transmission (AM<br>> > instead of FM applied for) or changing some other conditions during the<br>> > licence award ?<br>> > <br>> > Shankar<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Shankar Meembat, Founder and CEO<br>> > UK: +44 (741) 1130680 <br>> > US: +1 (702) 4782134 <br>> > FI: +358 (50) 4862963 <br>> > <br>> > <https://www.facebook.com/exaget><br>> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/exaget-ltd-><br>> > <https://www.twitter.com/exaget> <https://www.twitter.com/exaget> <br>> > <https://www.twitter.com/exaget><br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > On 14 Sep 2015, at 13:43, Ian Hickling <transplanfm@hotmail.com> wrote:<br>> > > <br>> > > This is the crux<br>> > > Ofcom awards a Licence based on what you say you can do in your Application.<br>> > > If Ofcom accepts that you have shown without reasonable doubt that you can<br>> > > provide an efficient transmission system and you have the funds to achieve<br>> > > that and you fail - then it's your responsibility.<br>> > > But - and it is a real but - how much contribution does Ofcom make towards<br>> > > your awareness of the hard facts?<br>> > > If it doesn't do that effectively and you fail - whose responsibility is<br>> > > that?<br>> > > <br>> > > Ian Hickling<br>> > > Partner<br>> > > <br>> > > <http://www.transplanuk.com/><br>> > > Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)<br>> > > Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)<br>> > > 6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS<br>> > > <br>> > > <br>> > > From: richodr@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:richodr@blueyonder.co.uk><br>> > > To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk <mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> > > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:46:33 +0100<br>> > > CC: stevejones42@talktalk.net <mailto:stevejones42@talktalk.net><br>> > > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Confession<br>> > > <br>> > > Hi Ian<br>> > > <br>> > > I think this is the first post to CMA Forum.<br>> > > <br>> > > YMCA Radio Barnsley was successful in July 2014 in gaining an AM licence.<br>> > > <br>> > > In July 2015 we had to hand back the licence. <br>> > > <br>> > > The cost for getting on air £100k! (mast/equipment/field rent/porta<br>> > > cabin/fencing/security/studio link/insurance/yearly mast inspection and<br>> > > power supply to a field). Never mind 5 years on costs!<br>> > > <br>> > > The lottery after checking our application for funds said that looking at<br>> > > other bids of a similar nature; we would not meet our outcomes!<br>> > > <br>> > > So we had to hand it back. We tried but it was unrealistic.<br>> > > <br>> > > Now then, “how’s small scale doing” ?<br>> > > <br>> > > Dave Richardson<br>> > > YMCA Radio Barnsley.<br>> > > <br>> > > From: cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > > <mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> > > [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > > <mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk>] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling<br>> > > Sent: 14 September 2015 11:47<br>> > > To: cma-l<br>> > > Subject: [cma-l] Confession<br>> > > <br>> > > I've just had to do something I really hate - admit failure.<br>> > > This morning I've written to a sincere hard-working young man in Bradford to<br>> > > tell him that we can't offer him a feasible AM transmission system so he can<br>> > > comply with his hard-won Community Radio Licence.<br>> > > Not just us - but it's a joint decision including advice from another Ofcom<br>> > > transmission provision company and also from our AM specialist friends at<br>> > > the BBC.<br>> > > I've copied in several relevant people at Ofcom too so that are aware of the<br>> > > real difficulties that trying to put in an AM system where they say there is<br>> > > no FM can bring.<br>> > > Two weeks ago I sent them what I believe is a fair and honest price<br>> > > comparison produced in good faith for a potential CR Applicant on the<br>> > > outskirts of London that showed AM costing over five times that of an<br>> > > equivalent-performance FM system.<br>> > > This isn't some form of organised aggressive anti-AM campaign - I'm just<br>> > > trying to get the fairest deal for our Clients and for Community Radio as a<br>> > > whole.<br>> > > Ian Hickling<br>> > > Partner<br>> > > <br>> > > <http://www.transplanuk.com/><br>> > > Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)<br>> > > Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)<br>> > > 6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS<br>> > > <br>> > > _______________________________________________ Reply -<br>> > > cma-l@commedia.org.uk <mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk> The cma-l mailing list<br>> > > is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association -<br>> > > http://www.commedia.org.uk <http://www.commedia.org.uk/> Twitter:<br>> > > http://twitter.com/community_media <http://twitter.com/community_media><br>> > > http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> > > <http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation> Canstream Internet Radio<br>> > > & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/ <http://www.canstream.co.uk/><br>> > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list guidelines:<br>> > > http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> > > <http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/>_______________________________________________<br>> > > To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> > > http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>> > > <http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l>_______________________________________________<br>> > > <br>> > > Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk <mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk><br>> > > <br>> > > The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media<br>> > > Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk <http://www.commedia.org.uk/><br>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> > > <http://twitter.com/community_media><br>> > > http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> > > <http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation><br>> > > Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> > > <http://www.canstream.co.uk/><br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > > <br>> > ><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> <br>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Mailing list guidelines: http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br></div></div> </div></body>
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