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</head><body><p>Re Clive's comment:<br></p><p><span style="font-size: large;" size="4"><br></span><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);"><em><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4">One potential stumbling block is the BBC policy which says they won't provide news to stations with commercial revenues (i.e who have advertising) although that only seems to apply to stations within the UK.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4">This might be be prohibited by Ofcom anyway. Ten years ago we secured agreement with BBC Scotland for all the stations in the Highlands & Islands to be able to rebroadcast/reuse BBC local news bulletins, but Ofcom refused permission because the stations involved were all commercially licensed (most of the community radio stations in the Highlands and Islands hold full ILR commercial licences), and all were obliged by their licences to produce local news of their own. In our case at least, we wanted to take the BBC bulletin in addition to our own much more local news, not in place of, but that made no difference. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4">There were no CR stations here at the time, so I never inquired as to whether the ban also applied to CR licensees, but in recent years I got the impression it did not. I have also never re-inquired as to whether Ofcom would now take a more relaxed view of the not-for-profit commercial licence holders such as ourselves taking up the BBC offer nowadays.<br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4">Just for info.<br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt;" size="4">Alex<br></span></p><blockquote type="cite">On 07 September 2015 at 10:18 Clive Glover <clivegloveruk@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">David</span><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">My thoughts exactly on hearing about this today!</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">The odd thing is that it does not seem to relate to BBC local radio services either, so it must have come from the criticisms of BBC News Online.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">One potential stumbling block is the BBC policy which says they won't provide news to stations with commercial revenues (i.e who have advertising) although that only seems to apply to stations within the UK.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">I too would hope that the CMA will take up this issue with the BBC immediately (perhaps asking to go on Today someone?)</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Something to discuss on Saturday in Luton I think!</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Clive Glover</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4">Radio Verulam, St Albans</span></div><div><span style="font-size: large;" class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 7 Sep 2015, at 08:33, David Duffy wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">Dear All,</div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">The BBC’s Lord Hall is about to make the first of four speeches outlining the BBC’s future.  What will it mean for community radio?</div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">Among the specific plans he will outline includes a multi-million pound investment in journalism, with a network of 100 <span style="text-decoration: underline;">public service</span> reporters across the country to deliver news from courts and councils. </div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">This is a great opportunity for community radio <em class="">as a body</em> to tap into a publicly-funded journalistic resource that could be and should be working directly with local stations.</div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">The BBC is also going to create a 'hub' for data journalism, giving <span style="text-decoration: underline;">local newspapers</span> access to its statistical analysis, and offer audio and video clips free to other websites. </div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">I hope the CMA is talking with both the BBC and DCMS. </div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">Providing licence fee funded resources to privately owned media organisations ahead of not-for-profit community broadcasters is clearly unacceptable. A partnership with the BBC should have ambition and deliver outcomes that are more tangible than is currently framed in the memorandum of understanding.</div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">Local news is essential for a strong democracy and community radio needs to be at the forefront of its delivery. What the BBC is tabling is an unprecedented offer that would put millions into a local journalism partnership.  Community radio needs to be an equal partner in that.</div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;">David Duffy</div><div class="" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0.8em; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; line-height: 23px; color: #333333;"><a class="" href="http://theradiopeople.co.uk/">theradiopeople.co.uk</a> </div></div>_______________________________________________<br><br>Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br>Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Mailing list guidelines: http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote><p><br> </p><blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br><br>Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br><br>The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Mailing list guidelines: http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</blockquote><p><br> </p></body></html>