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</head><body><p>Yes, of course I'm aware of the other variants of FM, my point was that there seems ot be alarge enough market for RDS for set makers, even portables and some phones, such as HTC, to judge it worthwhile supporting RDS. <br></p><p><span style="color: #666699;"><em><br></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #666699;"><em>And you need to be continuously scanning the FM and DAB bands to populate this station list name, otherwise when travelling you'll never find local radio.</em></span></p><p><br></p><p>The radio does that for itself unbidden. I routinely use the radio's station list to see what stations are in range.<br></p><p><span style="color: #666699;"><em><br></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #666699;"><em>Incidentally, I cannot comprehend why anyone wouldn't be on Radioplayer, I must say: its the R&D department for the whole of UK radio.</em></span></p><p><br></p><p>The main reason for not being on RadioPlayer would be the cost and the fact that ithey won't allow you to be on mobiles if you don't provide a low-rate bitstream. We joined it when the BBC was on it and didn't have its own radioplayer which rather undermined  UK Radioplayer's proposition. But we did first have to negotiate a more proportionate fee!<br></p><p><br></p><p>As a user, I still prefer to use TuneIn. It has far more facilities.<br></p><p><br></p><p>Alex<br></p><blockquote type="cite">On 05 September 2015 at 18:45 James Cridland <james@cridland.net> wrote:<br><br><p>Hi, Alex,</p><p>The UK market is a tiny and inconsequential one to most manufacturers. The Digital Radio tickmark thing is actually deliberately set to mirror similar accreditation systems in Europe and Australia. Further, the radio industry is uninterested in how radio sets operate, and not big or united enough to talk to most manufacturers in a coherent manner.</p><p>Really, we have a “North America vs rest-of-world” thing going on in radio receivers. You are correct that AM is different – so is FM, in fact, with different deemphasis values used as well as different frequency spacing. Pedants: Japan's different still, with FM from 76 to 108MHz. And parts of ex Soviet countries use something different again.</p><p>"Animated and dynamic RDS names do not break tuning by name" - I bow to your obvious knowledge. I'd only observe that scrolling now-playing info, in place in many parts of the world, means that you end up with station names like “TY PERRY” or even “LE NOW O” which really isn't the sort of user experience any one wants to give, and certainly isn't recognisable.</p><p>Tuning by station name doesn't work on AM – but I'd argue that AM isn't part of radio's future anyway. (Pedants: it does, if you use AMSS, a kind of RDS for AM. Nobody does).</p><p>Further, the ideal is tuning by station name irrespective of waveband – so you'd get “BBC 6 Music” in the same list as “TwoLochs”. (You want that, right?) The issue here is that de-duping the list isn't simple; “BBC R Scot” on FM in your part of the world could be different to “BBC Radio Scotland” on an available local multiplex, because of local optouts. The BBC have deliberately broken service-following between FM and DAB, which has the side effect of also breaking any way that your radio can de-dupe Radio 4 FM from Radio 4 DAB. And so on.</p><p>And you need to be continuously scanning the FM and DAB bands to populate this station list name, otherwise when travelling you'll never find local radio.</p><p>The “Radioplayer Car” unit, currently in test, does all you have asked for and more – linking to IP as well (and more importantly linking back), and letting you tune by station name and logo. <a href="https://media.info/radio/stations/two-lochs-radio">https://media.info/radio/stations/two-lochs-radio</a> tells me that you are on Radioplayer, so you'll benefit when that is available for sale later this year.</p><p>Incidentally, I cannot comprehend why anyone wouldn't be on Radioplayer, I must say: its the R&D department for the whole of UK radio.</p><p>James</p></blockquote></body></html>