<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">yes, we were aware of the costs beforehand - but it’s only now that I look in more detail that I see that their charge for the pilot DAB service is 66 per month, whereas an FM-only charge would be less (63)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just highlighting the ridiculousness of the fees.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">B.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 17 Jul 2015, at 12:33, <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" class="">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="">We all know that PPL is an aggressive operator that grossly overvalues its repertoire for small radio stations, but I'm puzzled why you need to raise the question now. This and other costs were well known ahead of applications for the trial, and were one of the several reasons we decided it was financially too costly and short-term an exercise for us to try - given that there is no guarantee at all of a continuing licence at the end.</div>
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<div class="">List members had identified this very problem in advance, and it was discussed fully on the list a long time back. At that time I wrote:</div>
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<div class="">"The DAB licence thing is of course another question. In my opinion there is no justification for PPL to ask for extra money for a simulcast by DAB (nor by Internet). If having the extra delivery method enhances the value of your station then that will be reflected in increased revenues and they will get their cut automatically under the existing NBR arrangements. I see no justification for any additional charge simply because you are available on two different types of radio."</div>
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<div class="">Incidentally, for FM+DAB+stream, PPL charges community stations more in total than it charges small commercial stations! Their charges are highly regressive and have many illogicalities, but they rely on the fact that none of us has the financial resources to mount a tribunal case against them, and the CMA has proved very weak in negotiation with them (apologies to those involved, but it's a fact).</div>
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<div class="">Cheers</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="position: relative; margin-left: 0px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: solid 1px blue;" class="">On 17 July 2015 at 12:05 Bruce Rodger <<a href="mailto:bruce@celticmusicradio.net" class="">bruce@celticmusicradio.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">(should we be thinking about setting up separate forum for those of us involved in the small-scale DB trials?)</div>
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<div class="">Has anyone had any discussion/negotiation regarding PPL and the small-scale DAB pilot?</div>
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<div class="">Shortly after the announcement, PRS contacted us saying that there would be no additional fees for the DAB pilot, assuming that the DAB service was a simulcast of our FM service. Good news.</div>
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<div class="">PPL, on the other hand, contacted us today saying there would be a £500+VAT license for the 9 month period.</div>
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<div class="">This is despite</div>
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<li class="">the DAB service is a pilot</li>
<li class="">the DAB service is a simulcast of our FM service</li>
<li class="">the DAB service covers broadly the same area as our FM service</li>
<li class="">The 500+VAT for 9 months for a pilot/development service is actually MORE than the equivalent fee for a production FM service! (159/quarter)</li>
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<div class="">Does anyone else have difficulty understanding how they justify this?</div>
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<div class="">Bruce.</div>
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