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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Ah Neil - Don't confuse "alacrity" with "accuracy"!<br>Thank you CMA for tolerating a healthy discussion.<div><br><div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><font size="3"><b>Ian Hickling</b><br></font></div><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-size:12pt;" size="3"><font style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Partner</font></font><br><br><a href="http://www.transplanuk.com/" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204);"><img alt="" src="https://ci4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/2SkDsnIzSZgRbNnNKBSiwxiFhFQWRGV55mTjVL23fulnJpstZmYxeKrrYefY4qxiSgkMrAETld64XINLXCsujE_zI5gAsQyWeCWvHixcrNYtar3Sij4YlVBgN2NSQ-n2DsgZvrnpWZlfwCQ=s0-d-e1-ft#http://www.transplanuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/transplan_UK_weblogo_190x60.png"></a><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)</font></i></div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:1;word-spacing:0px;"><i><font size="3">6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS</font></i></div></div><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: fortwilliam20@gmail.com<br>Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 16:18:05 +0100<br>To: tlr@gairloch.co.uk; cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Radio 1 Eleven Times Better than Commercial Radio? – FM Spectrum Consumption in the UK<br><br>Jings, Can I suggest gentlemen you take up broadcasting! It appears you have the ability to fill up white space with alacrity.<div><br></div><div>And as I read recently, we all know E in E=mc2 stands for Einstein! What oes it matter!</div><div><br></div><div>Neil MacLeod</div><div><br><div><blockquote><div>On 13 Jul 2015, at 14:34, <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a> wrote:</div><br class="ecxApple-interchange-newline"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;">I understand, and empathize with your view entirely, but English is spoken to be understood. It's just like the abuse of 'to decimize' or 'enormity'- they are regrettable, but it's English, not logic or a dead language!</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"> </div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"><div>I agree, 6dB in power indicates an arithmetical factor of four, but you were complaining about whether that factored by four value should be added on to the original or replace it/ I contend that in English the phrase that includes "11 times better" is used, conventionally, to indicate something is better by being 11 times as good.<span class="ecxApple-converted-space"> </span></div><div> </div><div>I have 1 times less to say about it :)</div><div><br>Alex</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;"> </div><blockquote style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;padding-left:10px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:blue;">On 13 July 2015 at 14:03 Ian Hickling <<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sorry - No<div>"Better than" implies "in addition to" - that is - with the original status maintained - not with it added in.</div><div>No different from "Eleven times greater than...."</div><div>"More than" has to be an addition to what is already there.</div><div>"As many as" is a multiplier of what is already there - that's the difference</div><div>I refer back to the concept of "one time better than" - which although we do not use, has to be acceptable in a mathematical system - and means "twice as good as"</div><div>Radio engineers may say that - but it's not right - is it?</div><div>6dB in power (rather than voltage or current) terms is an arithmetical factor of four - so 6dB up is four times the power (or "as powerful".</div><div>That says it all - surely?<br><br><div><div style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>Ian Hickling</strong><br></span></div><span style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34);font-family:arial, 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