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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The old Radcom Agency used to do the
      "pirate bit" at their annual bash - the last one I attended
      included a mock-up of a pirate radio studio, complete with used
      lager cans....&nbsp; Didn't the investigation service get passed to the
      beeb?<br>
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      Tony Bailey<br>
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      On 07/07/15 10:41, James Cridland wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">My concern is: why did this take an FoI request to
        discover? Surely Ofcom should be shouting about their work here?<br>
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        <div>Investigations I made a few years ago after a presentation
          from Ofcom on pirate radio at TechCon -&nbsp;<a
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          - point to an awful lot of spin by Ofcom:</div>
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        <div>"Then the man who is in charge of closing pirate radio
          stations down, Jim McNally from Ofcom. McNally &#8211; who sounded
          like an ex-policeman &#8211; spent all his time telling us why
          pirate radio was all linked with drugs and crime, and why they
          were all very nasty people. As far as I was concerned, he
          completely misread the audience; many of whom saw much of
          pirate radio as simply a nuisance who transmitted over their
          own properly licenced stations, and wanted to know when Ofcom
          might take action against them. Yet, we heard nothing about
          Ofcom&#8217;s attempts to close these stations down: indeed, he
          didn&#8217;t mention one single successful closure or any statistics
          there at all. Instead, we heard a story about London City
          Airport being &#8220;20 minutes from closure&#8221; because of a pirate
          radio service. The story dates from 2005, and &#8211; while
          apparently on the CAA&#8217;s behalf &#8211; only appears online in
          connection with Ofcom&#8217;s attempt to brand all pirate radio
          stations as uninterested in music, involved with drugs and
          crime, and affecting public safety. There is no independent
          reporting of this incident, far less anything to back up the
          &#8220;20 minutes&#8221; claim. If it was so shocking, why on earth wasn&#8217;t
          it covered by any news outlet? I&#8217;m afraid I saw this entire
          session as a spin exercise, light on facts and covering up
          Ofcom&#8217;s clear incompetence in actually closing any of these
          services down. I&#8217;d be delighted to be corrected by Ofcom, and
          actually hear some evidence of the authority protecting its
          licensees."<br>
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        <div>It's interesting that nobody from Ofcom bothered to correct
          me. Because if they really are closing 200 pirate stations a
          year, they've something to shout about.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:03 AM Mark Davis &lt;<a
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            <div>I don't think they can actually do anything even if
              they do manage to find the studio , most pirates these
              days call themselves ______.net etc they never mention the
              frequency and always refer to themselves as streaming
              world wide and never say if someone is listening via fm or
              Internet ,and they link via the Internet , so I suppose
              gathering evidence on them from there broadcasts is very
              hard , unless they catch them on a tower block .</div>
            <div>Please correct me if I'm wrong&nbsp;</div>
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            From: Tony Bailey &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk"
              target="_blank">ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk</a>&gt; <br>
            Date: 07/07/2015 08:36 (GMT+00:00) <br>
            To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            Subject: Re: [cma-l] Four hundred pirate radio setups shut
            down in London in just two years
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              <div>This is full of interesting bits:<br>
                <br>
                "It's a big problem, especially in London," he said.
                "There are about 70 active stations in the London area.
                In the whole of the UK we've got something like just
                over 100.<br>
                "From the enquiries we've carried out, this problem
                doesn't exist in New York or Rome or Paris - it's a
                London phenomenon."<br>
                <br>
                Maybe because in Rome and Paris the FM band is planned
                for the city - not the surrounding countryside as it is
                in London?<br>
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                Tony Bailey<br>
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                On 06/07/15 18:08, Ian Hickling wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">"........internet radio and the
                  introduction of community broadcasting licences have
                  taken away some of the incentive for pirates to
                  broadcast........"?
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                  <div>Sorry - &nbsp;on which planet is this?<br>
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                      From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        target="_blank">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
                      Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:40:18 +0100<br>
                      To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      Subject: [cma-l] Four hundred pirate radio setups
                      shut down in London in just two years<br>
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                          <div><span>Regulators have raided nearly 400
                              suspected pirate radio setups in London
                              over the last two years, the
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                                Standard</a> can reveal.<br>
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                          Figures released by Ofcom in response to a
                          Freedom of Information request show nearly a
                          quarter of the raids took place in Haringey,
                          north London, while 90 resulted in equipment
                          being seized.<br>
                          Lambeth, south London, was the next biggest
                          offender, with more than 50 raids on suspected
                          pirates between April 2013 and March this
                          year.<br>
                          The communications regulator says internet
                          radio and the introduction of community
                          broadcasting licences have taken away some of
                          the incentive for pirates to broadcast.<br>
                          But pirate stations remain a problem because
                          they can interfere with vital comms channels
                          used by the emergency services.<br>
                          "It's not about raising revenue," Clive
                          Corrie, Ofcom's head of spectrum enforcement,
                          told the Standard. "It's about protecting the
                          spectrum from harmful interference.<br>
                          "Last year Ofcom received 53 complaints of
                          interference to aviation services -
                          ground-to-air radio location and radio
                          navigation systems."<br>
                          Of the 53 complaints, 48 related to the London
                          area.<br>
                          Mr Corrie added the problem was largely
                          confined to the capital, though the reason for
                          this has experts at something of a loss.<br>
                          "It's a big problem, especially in London," he
                          said. "There are about 70 active stations in
                          the London area. In the whole of the UK we've
                          got something like just over 100.<br>
                          "From the enquiries we've carried out, this
                          problem doesn't exist in New York or Rome or
                          Paris - it's a London phenomenon."<br>
                          The true figures are likely to be even higher
                          - councils don't have to tell Ofcom when they
                          raid pirate radio setups.<br>
                          Hackney Council revealed last month it had
                          dismantled 29 masts and transmitters being
                          used by pirate broadcasters in 12 months -
                          only five of which are recorded in the FOI
                          disclosure given to the Standard.<br>
                          Aviation doesn't use the same bandwidth as FM
                          radio but because the home-made transmitters
                          are typically a dozen times stronger than
                          community radio equipment - sometimes up to
                          300 Watts - and are often poorly installed,
                          they can inadvertently take over higher
                          frequencies.<br>
                          Corrie added pirates typically chose tower
                          blocks on high ground, and often hide
                          equipment in lift shafts and air vents - not
                          just to stop authorities from getting to it,
                          but also to protect it from other pirate
                          groups. "It's a bit of a Wild West situation,"
                          he said.<br>
                          Among the council raids in Hackney this year
                          was one on the Summit Estate, Upper Clapton.<br>
                          Hackney's housing chief Cllr Philip Glanville
                          said: "Surprisingly, this type of activity is
                          still quite common, and can have an impact on
                          the lives of our residents."<br>
                          Three years ago, the Army inadvertently raided
                          an illegal dance music station in north-east
                          London.<br>
                          Soldiers stumbled upon a group of "young men"
                          broadcasting from Highfield Towers in Collier
                          Row as they set up surveillance equipment
                          ahead of the Olympics.<br>
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