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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The old Radcom Agency used to do the
"pirate bit" at their annual bash - the last one I attended
included a mock-up of a pirate radio studio, complete with used
lager cans.... Didn't the investigation service get passed to the
beeb?<br>
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Tony Bailey<br>
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On 07/07/15 10:41, James Cridland wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My concern is: why did this take an FoI request to
discover? Surely Ofcom should be shouting about their work here?<br>
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<div>Investigations I made a few years ago after a presentation
from Ofcom on pirate radio at TechCon - <a
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- point to an awful lot of spin by Ofcom:</div>
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<div>"Then the man who is in charge of closing pirate radio
stations down, Jim McNally from Ofcom. McNally – who sounded
like an ex-policeman – spent all his time telling us why
pirate radio was all linked with drugs and crime, and why they
were all very nasty people. As far as I was concerned, he
completely misread the audience; many of whom saw much of
pirate radio as simply a nuisance who transmitted over their
own properly licenced stations, and wanted to know when Ofcom
might take action against them. Yet, we heard nothing about
Ofcom’s attempts to close these stations down: indeed, he
didn’t mention one single successful closure or any statistics
there at all. Instead, we heard a story about London City
Airport being “20 minutes from closure” because of a pirate
radio service. The story dates from 2005, and – while
apparently on the CAA’s behalf – only appears online in
connection with Ofcom’s attempt to brand all pirate radio
stations as uninterested in music, involved with drugs and
crime, and affecting public safety. There is no independent
reporting of this incident, far less anything to back up the
“20 minutes” claim. If it was so shocking, why on earth wasn’t
it covered by any news outlet? I’m afraid I saw this entire
session as a spin exercise, light on facts and covering up
Ofcom’s clear incompetence in actually closing any of these
services down. I’d be delighted to be corrected by Ofcom, and
actually hear some evidence of the authority protecting its
licensees."<br>
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<div>It's interesting that nobody from Ofcom bothered to correct
me. Because if they really are closing 200 pirate stations a
year, they've something to shout about.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:03 AM Mark Davis <<a
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<div>I don't think they can actually do anything even if
they do manage to find the studio , most pirates these
days call themselves ______.net etc they never mention the
frequency and always refer to themselves as streaming
world wide and never say if someone is listening via fm or
Internet ,and they link via the Internet , so I suppose
gathering evidence on them from there broadcasts is very
hard , unless they catch them on a tower block .</div>
<div>Please correct me if I'm wrong </div>
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] Four hundred pirate radio setups shut
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<div>This is full of interesting bits:<br>
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"It's a big problem, especially in London," he said.
"There are about 70 active stations in the London area.
In the whole of the UK we've got something like just
over 100.<br>
"From the enquiries we've carried out, this problem
doesn't exist in New York or Rome or Paris - it's a
London phenomenon."<br>
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Maybe because in Rome and Paris the FM band is planned
for the city - not the surrounding countryside as it is
in London?<br>
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On 06/07/15 18:08, Ian Hickling wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">"........internet radio and the
introduction of community broadcasting licences have
taken away some of the incentive for pirates to
broadcast........"?
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<div>Sorry - on which planet is this?<br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:40:18 +0100<br>
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Subject: [cma-l] Four hundred pirate radio setups
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<div><span>Regulators have raided nearly 400
suspected pirate radio setups in London
over the last two years, the
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Figures released by Ofcom in response to a
Freedom of Information request show nearly a
quarter of the raids took place in Haringey,
north London, while 90 resulted in equipment
being seized.<br>
Lambeth, south London, was the next biggest
offender, with more than 50 raids on suspected
pirates between April 2013 and March this
year.<br>
The communications regulator says internet
radio and the introduction of community
broadcasting licences have taken away some of
the incentive for pirates to broadcast.<br>
But pirate stations remain a problem because
they can interfere with vital comms channels
used by the emergency services.<br>
"It's not about raising revenue," Clive
Corrie, Ofcom's head of spectrum enforcement,
told the Standard. "It's about protecting the
spectrum from harmful interference.<br>
"Last year Ofcom received 53 complaints of
interference to aviation services -
ground-to-air radio location and radio
navigation systems."<br>
Of the 53 complaints, 48 related to the London
area.<br>
Mr Corrie added the problem was largely
confined to the capital, though the reason for
this has experts at something of a loss.<br>
"It's a big problem, especially in London," he
said. "There are about 70 active stations in
the London area. In the whole of the UK we've
got something like just over 100.<br>
"From the enquiries we've carried out, this
problem doesn't exist in New York or Rome or
Paris - it's a London phenomenon."<br>
The true figures are likely to be even higher
- councils don't have to tell Ofcom when they
raid pirate radio setups.<br>
Hackney Council revealed last month it had
dismantled 29 masts and transmitters being
used by pirate broadcasters in 12 months -
only five of which are recorded in the FOI
disclosure given to the Standard.<br>
Aviation doesn't use the same bandwidth as FM
radio but because the home-made transmitters
are typically a dozen times stronger than
community radio equipment - sometimes up to
300 Watts - and are often poorly installed,
they can inadvertently take over higher
frequencies.<br>
Corrie added pirates typically chose tower
blocks on high ground, and often hide
equipment in lift shafts and air vents - not
just to stop authorities from getting to it,
but also to protect it from other pirate
groups. "It's a bit of a Wild West situation,"
he said.<br>
Among the council raids in Hackney this year
was one on the Summit Estate, Upper Clapton.<br>
Hackney's housing chief Cllr Philip Glanville
said: "Surprisingly, this type of activity is
still quite common, and can have an impact on
the lives of our residents."<br>
Three years ago, the Army inadvertently raided
an illegal dance music station in north-east
London.<br>
Soldiers stumbled upon a group of "young men"
broadcasting from Highfield Towers in Collier
Row as they set up surveillance equipment
ahead of the Olympics.<br>
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