<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div>An interesting idea however I struggle to see how the even the sum of the spare capacity of a dozen community radio stations couldn’t properly resource the output of even one BBC local radio station. </div><div><br></div><div>Wouldn’t a better approach be to building on the CMA / BBC MoU to get so many hours of local BBC radio airtime dedicated to community radio programmes? </div><div><br></div></div><div>Good luck. </div><div><br></div><div>Alan </div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:12pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>> on behalf of Trevor Lockwood<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> Trevor Lockwood, "<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>"<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:20<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>"<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14118"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121">Donald</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14122"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14548"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121">Keep the idea of 'fraction of the cost' quiet! BBC Local Radio spends over £200 million (last time I looked). We can provide a much better service.<br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14549"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14550" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121">Tony: community media should encompass all forms of communication. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14552" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14554" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121">To start with we need to create a small team - anyone willing please contact me. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14917" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14918" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14121">Then we can ask CMA Council if our project can work within the CMA. Then look at what grants/support/crowd funding is available to keep us in coffee and biscuits.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14117"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14116" class="signature"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14115"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14114" size="3">Trevor Lockwood BSc</font> FRSA<br>Tel/mobile: <span class="skype_c2c_print_container notranslate">01394 270328</span><span id="skype_c2c_container" class="skype_c2c_container notranslate" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14615" class="skype_c2c_highlighting_inactive_common" dir="ltr"><span class="skype_c2c_textarea_span" id="non_free_num_ui"><img data-id="e72b25ac-4f43-5a06-3edb-0687d7762d03" class="skype_c2c_logo_img" height="0" width="0"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14614" class="skype_c2c_text_span">01394 270328</span><span class="skype_c2c_free_text_span"></span></span></span></span>, <span class="skype_c2c_print_container notranslate">07746 4741806</span><span id="skype_c2c_container" class="skype_c2c_container notranslate" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14617" class="skype_c2c_highlighting_inactive_common" dir="ltr"><span class="skype_c2c_textarea_span" id="non_free_num_ui"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14616" class="skype_c2c_text_span">7746 47148<a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14618" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://6 www.debenradio.co.uk">6</a></span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://6 www.debenradio.co.uk"><span class="skype_c2c_free_text_span"></span></a></span></span></span><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14625" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://6 www.debenradio.co.uk"><br></a><br></div><div><span></span></div><div style="display:none;" id="skype_c2c_menu_container" class="skype_c2c_menu_container notranslate"><div class="skype_c2c_menu_click2call"><a href="" rel="nofollow" id="skype_c2c_menu_click2call_action" class="skype_c2c_menu_click2call_action">Call</a></div><div class="skype_c2c_menu_click2sms"><a href="" rel="nofollow" id="skype_c2c_menu_click2sms_action" class="skype_c2c_menu_click2sms_action">Send SMS</a></div><div class="skype_c2c_menu_add2skype"><a href="" rel="nofollow" id="skype_c2c_menu_add2skype_text" class="skype_c2c_menu_add2skype_text">Add to Skype</a></div><div class="skype_c2c_menu_toll_info"><span class="skype_c2c_menu_toll_callcredit">You'll need Skype Credit</span><span class="skype_c2c_menu_toll_free">Free via Skype</span></div></div></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14622" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14621" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14620" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14623" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14919" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Tony Bailey <<a href="mailto:ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk">ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 30 June 2015, 14:27<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14920" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv8597574445"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14922">
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14921" class="yiv8597574445moz-cite-prefix">One of the questions I've often asked
is did we make a mistake back in the 80's in assuming that the
only route for a truly local radio service was via the then IBA.
Our original 1970's community radio project was formed as a group
to provide programming on the BBC "local" station. The beeb of
course had no intention of providing community radio (unless
forced to by someone else doing it) and probably wouldn't have got
involved in "local" radio either had it not been for the threat of
ILR. Against this background it is easy to see why the commercial
route was thought by most people to be the only one worth
pursuing. It is something of a minor miracle that community radio
exists at all when you look at the politics and vested interests
that surround it. While we are on the subject of the statutory
services, I feel it should be pointed out that the national tv
networks don't do very well in "local" news provision either, the
tv local news we now pay for (a couple of stories and the footy),
if you can find it in the schedules, is pretty poor in my opinion.<br clear="none">
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On 30/06/15 11:41, Donald Mack wrote:<br clear="none">
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</blockquote></div><div><div>Hear hear.</div>
<div>We can demonstrate how CR benefits all sectors and all for a
fraction of the License Fee or its future equivalent.</div>
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<div>Sign me up</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 29 June 2015 at 14:39 Trevor Lockwood
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<div id="yiv8597574445yui_3_16_0_1_1435584625721_7707"><span>It's my belief
that we should now develop a strategy for 2016 when the
BBC Charter is up for renewal.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv8597574445yui_3_16_0_1_1435584625721_7882"><span>It should
present us for an excellent opportunity to argue our case
to replace the present BBC local radio structure.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv8597574445yui_3_16_0_1_1435584625721_7884"><span>We can present
excellent arguments to support our case.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv8597574445yui_3_16_0_1_1435584625721_7886"><span>I'd be happy
to be part of a working party that put that strategy
together.</span></div>
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<div id="yiv8597574445yui_3_16_0_1_1435584625721_7888"><span>In the present
and future climate within broadcasting this is the best
opportunity we shall ever have to expand our range, and
provide a truly local broadcasting network for this
country.</span></div>
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