<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66472"><span>Ian</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67129"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67128"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67127">I don't do foolhardy. My suggestion does not involve the BBC at all - except as external advisers, and possible job applicants.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67126"><br><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66744" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743">Nick is right that the BBC's attitude has always been condescending, and concerned only with what CMA stations can give, not what the Beeb are prepared to share or how they can learn. I'm frustrated by the BBC's inability to recognise we are a reservoir of talent, and bored by their endless parade of mediocre presenters and the safe but short playlist. They try to compete with commercial radio and that is not their remit. They do not serve towns and villages very well. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67048" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66806" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743">You may find a similar perception of the BBC is held elsewhere - it is of its time, but that's not now. <br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66927" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67049" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743">Costs are a factor - but a good set of scenarios can be offered.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67195" dir="ltr"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67196" dir="ltr"><span style="" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66743">This would not be solely a CMA project. </span>The <span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class="">Radio
Academy, Sound Women, Prison Radio
Association, Creative Skillset, Student Radio, the Radio Independence
Group, Project Everywhere and even the BBC Technology & Systems all immediately spring to mind, and there are more, yet to be named, including all our friends in the Community Media Forum Europe and all over the world.</span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67562" dir="ltr"><br><span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class=""></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67563" dir="ltr"><span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class="">I'm keen on the French model, with the government actively supporting any local community station. We can multistream, use listen again, and the BBC has a great archive, but we can have the same. We just need encouragement, and a modicum of cash.</span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68461" dir="ltr"><br><span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class=""></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68889" dir="ltr"><span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class="">I'm not sure that '</span></span><font style="" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67118" face="Calibri" size="3"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67117" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">formulate individual content and audience responsibility
targets' is the next step.</span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68890" dir="ltr"><br><font style="" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67118" face="Calibri" size="3"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67117" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;"></span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68891" dir="ltr"><font style="" class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67118" face="Calibri" size="3"><span class="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67117" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">We need a small team - that is bursting with ideas, that is not prepared to accept what exists unless it can prove its worth, and is prepared to challenge an institution that has served its time well, but now needs to fade, like an old codger, occasionally commenting from the sidelines 'oh no, you don't do it like that!'<br></span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67566" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69286" dir="ltr">I hope you will join in - it is a vision of the future.<br><span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class=""></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67565" dir="ltr"><span style="" class="" tabindex="0" data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id="fbPhotoSnowliftCaption"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67261" style="" class=""><br></span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66471"> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66470" class="signature"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66469"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66468" size="3">Trevor Lockwood BSc</font> FRSA<br>Tel/mobile: <span class="skype_c2c_print_container notranslate">01394 270328</span><span id="skype_c2c_container" class="skype_c2c_container notranslate" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69297" class="skype_c2c_highlighting_inactive_common" dir="ltr"><span class="skype_c2c_textarea_span" id="non_free_num_ui"><img data-id="275defd9-f686-d3d8-efc4-fecc453d2731" class="skype_c2c_logo_img" height="0" width="0"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69296" class="skype_c2c_text_span">01394 270328</span><span class="skype_c2c_free_text_span"></span></span></span></span>, <span class="skype_c2c_print_container notranslate">07746 4741806</span><span id="skype_c2c_container" class="skype_c2c_container notranslate" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69299" class="skype_c2c_highlighting_inactive_common" dir="ltr"><span class="skype_c2c_textarea_span" id="non_free_num_ui"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69298" class="skype_c2c_text_span">07746 47418<a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69300" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://6 www.debenradio.co.uk">6</a></span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://6 www.debenradio.co.uk"><span class="skype_c2c_free_text_span"></span></a></span></span></span><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66474" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://6 www.debenradio.co.uk"></a><br> </div></div><br><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66478" style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66477" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66476" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67564" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66475" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Canalside's The Thread <office@thethread.org.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'The Community Media Association Discussion List' <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk> <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69424"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69423" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 1 July 2015, 12:28<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66742"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66741" style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66479" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv0689832506"><style>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66482" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66481" color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66480" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">I hope everything goes a little better
than the last 3 escapades where meetings were held with the BBC, excellent
suggestions (from both sides) were expressed and then the end result er
? it never happened ! only to have yet another get-together
whereby some of the original suggestions went on a round Robin, did the repeat circuit
only to end up against the brick wall again.</span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67050" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68459" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">When trying to sort the follow ups out in
a nice, softly softly, polite and sensible manner, I was met with what can only
be described as a ‘’holier than thou attitude’’
sadly, this was yet another unfortunate escapade. But hey ….. we soldier
on and keep chipping away </span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66499" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66498" color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66497" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">I voice my opinion not to cause trouble or
make waves but to highlight problems and to hope that those in positions of
authority can see the wider picture and sort the problems out.</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66487" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66486" color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66485" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">So basically, all of this I will believe it
when I see it. Certainly a closer relationship between to two would be advantageous.
What won’t work and what ain’t going to happen is Community Radio
being used as a tool to get a cheap option for the BBC services. They ought to
be helping us first, so that we can then help them. Not the other way round.</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">By the way, do we have a date in the diary
for the next pointless meeting ?? I fancy a good jolly, I haven’t had
one for six months </span></font><font color="navy" face="Wingdings" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy;">J</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"></span></font></div>
<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66496" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66495" color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66494" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">If any of our Stations do Community TV,
then maybe there is one programme we could take from the BBC and lighten there
load how about Mr Alexanders – Pointless ? that would work.</span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67125" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69019" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69021" color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_69020" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Keep chuckling chaps and always wear a
nice big smile any news on the ‘possible’ daily current
affairs ??</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66493" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Nick</span></font></div>
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<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv0689832506yqt1666489402" id="yiv0689832506yqt90991"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66491" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></font></b><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66490" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_66489" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" lang="EN-US">
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br clear="none">
<b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68419"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68418" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 01 July 2015 11:09<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Trevor
Lockwood ; The Community Media AssociationDiscussion List;
ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Ofcom and
Tomorrow</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></div></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506yqt1666489402" id="yiv0689832506yqt84819"><div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67056">
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68422" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68421" face="Calibri" size="3"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68420" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">I think it's a little foolhardy to expect that either H M
Government or the BBC itself will contemplate Community Radio completely
taking over the position currently occupied by BBC Local Radio.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">The two can happily work together with BBC Local then
taking a more umbrella approach with a reducing budget.<br clear="none">
As we've said often - BBC Local serves towns and villages - Community Radio
serves streets and houses.</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67123" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67122" face="Calibri" size="3"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67121" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">From a content and technical viewpoint they can co-exist.</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67119" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67118" face="Calibri" size="3"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67117" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">The important next step is
to formulate individual content and audience responsibility
targets - which will inevitably be individually different.</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67054" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67053" face="Calibri" size="3"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_67052" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;">I don't do "team" or "committee" - but
I'm happy to contribute from a very close association with 20% of the CR
market -</span></font></div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68425" class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68424" face="Calibri" size="3"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_68423" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;"> and indeed a valuable link with the DCMS.</span></font></div>
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From: lockwood@btinternet.com<br clear="none">
To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br clear="none">
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;">Donald</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;">Keep
the idea of 'fraction of the cost' quiet! BBC Local Radio spends over £200
million (last time I looked). We can provide a much better service.<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;">Tony:
community media should encompass all forms of communication. <br clear="none">
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start with we need to create a small team - anyone willing please contact me. <br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;">Then
we can ask CMA Council if our project can work within the CMA. Then look at
what grants/support/crowd funding is available to keep us in coffee and
biscuits.</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 30 June 2015, 14:27<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and
Tomorrow</span></font><font color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black;"></span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">One
of the questions I've often asked is did we make a mistake back in the 80's in
assuming that the only route for a truly local radio service was via the then
IBA. Our original 1970's community radio project was formed as a group to
provide programming on the BBC "local" station. The beeb of
course had no intention of providing community radio (unless forced to by
someone else doing it) and probably wouldn't have got involved in "local"
radio either had it not been for the threat of ILR. Against this
background it is easy to see why the commercial route was thought by most
people to be the only one worth pursuing. It is something of a minor
miracle that community radio exists at all when you look at the politics and
vested interests that surround it. While we are on the subject of the
statutory services, I feel it should be pointed out that the national tv
networks don't do very well in "local" news provision either, the tv
local news we now pay for (a couple of stories and the footy), if you can find
it in the schedules, is pretty poor in my opinion.<br clear="none">
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Tony Bailey<br clear="none">
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On 30/06/15 11:41, Donald Mack
wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Hear
hear.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">We
can demonstrate how CR benefits all sectors and all for a fraction of the
License Fee or its future equivalent.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Sign
me up</span></font></div>
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<blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">On 29 June 2015 at 14:39 Trevor Lockwood
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lockwood@btinternet.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:lockwood@btinternet.com"><lockwood@btinternet.com></a>
wrote:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">It's
my belief that we should now develop a strategy for 2016 when the BBC Charter
is up for renewal.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">It
should present us for an excellent opportunity to argue our case to replace the
present BBC local radio structure.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">We
can present excellent arguments to support our case.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">I'd
be happy to be part of a working party that put that strategy together.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv0689832506MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font color="black" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">In
the present and future climate within broadcasting this is the best opportunity
we shall ever have to expand our range, and provide a truly local broadcasting
network for this country.</span></font></div>
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