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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would imagine that we could have done a
plethora of things over the years if we hadn&#8217;t been doing an impression
of a Hamster on Wheel &#8211; Running like mad and not getting anywhere !   Most
of our energy has been taken up arguing over what % we can earn to &#8216;provide
a service&#8217;        remember this is    &#8216;provide a service&#8217; and
NOT make profit &#8230;.. plus it took 5 years to get the £15,000 grand lee-way
in place.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Some may say &#8216;&#8217;ere we go
again, he&#8217;s off&#8217;&#8217;      not really, as it is all relevant. It&#8217;s
all to do with wasted energy and lack of funding. Most of us are actually only
about £30,000 a year short, which is the difference between running something
not far short of BBC standards. The BBC could certainly off-load some of their
programming and resources so that we could work in tandem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think the first port of call though is
to get the communication channels open. Making 5 phone calls and sending 5
e-mails to the organ grinder and getting no reply is once again not good use of
time, then doing the same again to the Deputy organ grinder only to end up
dealing with the monkey who can&#8217;t give you any answers anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I can relate to everything that has been
mentioned before but we need to understand the process and what the end result
needs to be. A simple way of looking at it would be &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;imagine
BBC Manchester has 5 Sports Journalists .. each beavers away through the week
but can&#8217;t actually get on-air because there is no room or they are not
quite good enough &#8230;. Why can&#8217;t one of those journalists come and
ply their trade on a Saturday for example at our Stations ?  at no cost of
course.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The last discussions seemed to end up
whereby we were making Programmes for the BBC &#8230;&#8230; for free of course
&#8230;..   they then sack about 40 folk as they don&#8217;t need them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When we sit down at one of these meetings
people should at least be honest &#8230;. I asked the question first off last
time and received no answer &#8230; I just got blank stares and others ducking
for cover.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Is the suggestion a genuine sharing of resources ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Is the suggestion a sharing of resources plus a bit of a tickle £££
?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Is the suggestion actually a cost saving exercise by the BBC but
dressed up as something else ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why don&#8217;t BBC Journalists at BBC
Manchester (for example) do a series of News bulletins ?    3 a day   one in a
morning, one at lunchtime, one at afternoon/drive and send them out as two
minute bites. Good practice for their journalists.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They could focus on Rochdale News / Oldham
News / Macclesfield News / Swinton      just plucking areas out of the air
here      Salford / <st1:place w:st="on">Stockport</st1:place> &#8230;.. places
where we have Community Stations  ??      I accept there is only so much time,
but they must have news stories that are never used, they are too small for the
bigger <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Manchester</st1:place></st1:City>
pool of News.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In otherwords use Community Radio as a
training resource and/or somewhere to off load programming that otherwise
wouldn&#8217;t get used. Forget the funding at the moment &#8230;. Focus on the
content. It&#8217;s a win/win for everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It comes to pass that to me it appeared as
if this was the idea, but we ended up going the wrong way &#8230;.. bottom to
top instead of top to bottom. And as I have previously pointed out, when we
tried to speak to someone about it in a polite and positive manner, it was like
trying to get hold of Lord Lucan. In fact, he would have been easier to get
hold of.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Anyway, I&#8217;m off now to climb back
onto the Wheel  </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 01 July 2015 15:21<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Ofcom and
Tomorrow</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Maybe it's me Alan - but I'm sorry - I don't understand
&quot;....the sum of the spare capacity of a dozen community radio stations
couldn&#8217;t properly resource the output&nbsp;....&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Could you expand on that please?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling</span></font></b><font size=2 color="#222222"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222;font-style:italic'>Office:
01635 578435&nbsp;&nbsp;(7am-11pm <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> time)</span></font></i><font
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222;font-style:italic'>Carphone:
07530 980115 (only responds when driving)</span></font></i><font size=2
color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;
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 color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#222222;
 font-style:italic'>, <st1:City w:st="on">Compton</st1:City></span></font></i></st1:address><i><font
color="#222222" face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:#222222;
font-style:italic'>, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">NEWBURY</st1:City>,
 <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">RG20 6QS</st1:PostalCode></st1:place></span></font></i><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 13:51:28
+0100<br>
From: alan.coote@5digital.co.uk<br>
To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and Tomorrow<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>An interesting idea however I struggle to see how the even
the sum of the spare capacity of a dozen community radio stations
couldn&#8217;t properly resource the output of even one BBC local radio
station. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Wouldn&#8217;t a better approach be to building on the CMA
/ BBC MoU to get so many hours of local BBC radio airtime dedicated to
community radio programmes?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:
</span></font></b><font color=black face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;
color:black'>&lt;<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>&gt;
on behalf of Trevor Lockwood<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Reply-To: </span></b>Trevor Lockwood, &quot;<a
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>&quot;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></b>Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:20<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To: </span></b>&quot;<a
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>&quot;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and
Tomorrow<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Donald</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Keep
the idea of 'fraction of the cost' quiet! BBC Local Radio spends over £200
million (last time I looked). We can provide a much better service.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Tony:
community media should encompass all forms of communication. <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>To
start with we need to create a small team - anyone willing please contact me. <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Then
we can ask CMA Council if our project can work within the CMA. Then look at
what grants/support/crowd funding is available to keep us in coffee and
biscuits.</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Trevor Lockwood BSc</span></font><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>
FRSA<br>
Tel/mobile: <span class=ecxskypec2cprintcontainerecxnotranslate>01394 270328</span><span
id="ecxskype_c2c_container"><span id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14615"><span
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id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14614">01394 270328</span></span></span></span></span>,
<span class=ecxskypec2cprintcontainerecxnotranslate>07746 4741806</span><span
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id="ecxskype_c2c_container"><span id="ecxnon_free_num_ui"><span
id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14616">7746 471486</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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href="https://" target="_blank">Call</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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SMS</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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href="https://" target="_blank" id="ecxskype_c2c_menu_add2skype_text">Add to
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class=ecxskypec2cmenutollcallcredit><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>You'll need Skype
Credit</span></font></span><span class=ecxskypec2cmenutollfree><font size=2
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:black'>Free via Skype</span></font></span><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial id="ecxyui_3_16_0_1_1435734062714_14919"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> Tony Bailey &lt;<a href="mailto:ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk">ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 30 June 2015, 14:27<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom and
Tomorrow</span></font><font color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>One
of the questions I've often asked is did we make a mistake back in the 80's in
assuming that the only route for a truly local radio service was via the then
IBA.&nbsp; Our original 1970's community radio project was formed as a group to
provide programming on the BBC &quot;local&quot; station.&nbsp; The beeb of
course had no intention of providing community radio (unless forced to by
someone else doing it) and probably wouldn't have got involved in &quot;local&quot;
radio either had it not been for the threat of ILR.&nbsp; Against this
background it is easy to see why the commercial route was thought by most
people to be the only one worth pursuing.&nbsp; It is something of a minor
miracle that community radio exists at all when you look at the politics and
vested interests that surround it.&nbsp; While we are on the subject of the
statutory services, I feel it should be pointed out that the national tv
networks don't do very well in &quot;local&quot; news provision either, the tv
local news we now pay for (a couple of stories and the footy), if you can find
it in the schedules, is pretty poor in my opinion.<br>
<br>
Tony Bailey<br>
<br>
On 30/06/15 11:41, Donald Mack wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Hear
hear.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>We
can demonstrate how CR benefits all sectors and all for a fraction of the
License Fee or its future equivalent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Sign
me up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
color:black'>On 29 June 2015 at 14:39 Trevor Lockwood <a
href="mailto:lockwood@btinternet.com" target="_blank" shape=rect>&lt;lockwood@btinternet.com&gt;</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It's
my belief that we should now develop a strategy for 2016 when the BBC Charter is
up for renewal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It
should present us for an excellent opportunity to argue our case to replace the
present BBC local radio structure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>We
can present excellent arguments to support our case.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I'd
be happy to be part of a working party that put that strategy together.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>In
the present and future climate within broadcasting this is the best opportunity
we shall ever have to expand our range, and provide a truly local broadcasting
network for this country.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><font size=3
color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
color:black'>Trevor Lockwood BSc FRSA<br>
Tel/mobile: <span
class=ecxyiv8597574445skypec2cprintcontainerecxyiv8597574445notranslate>01394
270328</span><img border=0 width=32 height=32 id="_x0000_i1029" src="%20"
data-id=0a18ec6b-db6c-684b-8aae-a5f4442a10f3
class="ecxyiv8597574445skype_c2c_logo_img"><span
class=ecxyiv8597574445skypec2ctextspan>01394 270328</span>, <span
class=ecxyiv8597574445skypec2cprintcontainerecxyiv8597574445notranslate>07746
4741806</span><span class=ecxyiv8597574445skypec2ctextspan>7746 47148<a
href="https://" target="_blank" shape=rect>6</a></span><span
class=ecxyiv8597574445skypec2ctextareaspan><a href="https://" target="_blank"
shape=rect></a></span><a href="https://" target="_blank" shape=rect><br>
www.debenradio.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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