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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think the fact that they volunteer ought
to be enough to be honest &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;however, there is a HOWEVER   </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>     if the voluntary
malarkey works 50/50 whereby they do what they enjoy doing plus give you a
little tickle on what you need them to do then the garden is hunky dory, it is
when this balance goes out of kilter that &#8216;&#8217;Houston we have a
problem&#8217;&#8217;          I&#8217;m afraid to say that once the novelty
wears off in most cases the scales have a massive tip and getting people to do
anything outside of shows becomes damn near impossible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What I do here is have a what I call half
way House. We have a football card &#8230;all the Presenters have a go
every-week for a quid &#8230;. We do the draw at the end of the week and the
winner gets £15 quid and the Station gets £25 quid &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..it
pays for Tea &amp; Coffee etc etc<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The observation about paying certain
Presenters is spot on because if your output goes pear shaped, then the ability
to obtain sponsorship becomes more difficult and so on and so on &#8230;..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So yes, the Presenters do pay, they pay a
quid, but stand a chance of winning £15 quid &#8230;&#8230; BUT ALAS    as
usual there are some who don&#8217;t cough up and you are constantly having to
chase them up which is a pain. Of course it means they won&#8217;t win, but
that&#8217;s not the point. So instead of the draw being every week, it ends up
every fortnight and the Station technically loses £25 quid x 26 weeks = £650
pounds (I think ?) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Golder<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 19 May 2015 07:31<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Community Media Association
Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Breakfast
Show</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Oh - I was surprised
about that.&nbsp; Stations have closed because they have been mismanaged, not
necessarily because they didn't ask their presenters for money.&nbsp; Like I
said, we don't do it, and we cover our costs fine.<br>
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Just out of interest how much do you charge? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 18 May 2015 at 22:19, gary.jackson &lt;<a
href="mailto:gary.jackson@my-generation.org.uk" target="_blank">gary.jackson@my-generation.org.uk</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>No, what I meant was that
without presenter contributions the station would close. Like a lot of others
already have. Their contributions have made up the operating loss each year and
they unanimously voted for that rather than closure <br>
Sent from my HTC<br>
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Paul Golder &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@pvg.co.uk" target="_blank">paul@pvg.co.uk</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City> means if you pay your daytime
presenters, you're more likely to get stability in your output, which leads to
the station being more attractive to advertisers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Works for us, anyway ....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 18 May 2015 at 17:44, Ian Hickling &lt;<a
href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Financial survival
depending on whether or not you pay your presenters?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 16:56:09 +0100<br>
From: <a href="mailto:gary.jackson@my-generation.org.uk" target="_blank">gary.jackson@my-generation.org.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Subject: Re: [cma-l] Breakfast Show<br>
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It's got sod all to do with ethos and everything to do with financial survival<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 18/05/2015 14:34, Pippa at Curly Radio wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>I&#8217;d much rather
be in the position to pay key presenters (breakfast &amp; drive), rather than
ask them for a contribution!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I guess it boils down to
the ethos of your station.&nbsp;&nbsp; Quality presenters will hold on to, and
build an audience which appeals to advertisers.&nbsp;&nbsp; Asian Star have
always worked that model and they have been very successful.&nbsp;&nbsp; They
also taught me how to run a station .... which I am now applying at Wycombe
Sound.&nbsp; Thanks Ray Cee! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:connect@catlake.uk" target="_blank" title="connect@catlake.uk">Cat
Lake</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> Monday, May 18, 2015
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank"
title="cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">The Community Media Association
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> Re:
[cma-l] Breakfast Show<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Some stations also
successfully raise money to keep the station going by making a small charge per
show for volunteers to present the programmes.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>On 18 May 2015 at
06:57, Paul Golder &lt;<a href="mailto:paul@pvg.co.uk" target="_blank">paul@pvg.co.uk</a>&gt;
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Not
putting myself forward for this (sorry) but I did wonder what a &quot;community
radio show rate&quot; is?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>We
pay our presenters a small fee for the shows between Monday-Friday 7am-6pm, and
I know other community stations don't.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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href="http://www.phoenixfm.com" target="_blank">www.phoenixfm.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>On 17 May 2015 at
19:28, Ray C &lt;<a href="mailto:rayc1066@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rayc1066@yahoo.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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We are looking for 4 to 6 weeks cover of our breakfast show 5 days a week 7am
to 10am is anyone able to help?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Starting
next week.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>We
do pay a community radio show rate for this, it would suit someone quite local
to Heathrow as we are based in sunny <st1:place w:st="on">Slough</st1:place> :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>If
you are interested then you can contact myself or the station manager on <a
href="mailto:info@asianstar1016.co.uk" target="_blank">info@asianstar1016.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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