<div dir="ltr">Ian,<div><br></div><div>I don't see anything particularly wrong with a commercial approach per se. Indeed many community stations may not want the hassle, or not be the best type of organisation to run a reliable, sustainable mux. So why not have a company that delivers that service?</div><div><br></div><div>Where I would have a problem would be if incumbent Mux operators were allowed to bid for them. This would present a real risk that they repeat the pricing model they have for existing DAB - undermining the whole point of the project!</div><div><br></div><div>My working assumption here is that any DAB mux would contain a number of services. In theory I guess a mux could just be one service, and in that circumstance it would most sensibly be operated by that community station. But surely Ofcom would not encourage such inefficient use of spectrum (a DAB mux uses an identical amount of spectrum whether it contains one station or 20)</div><div><br></div><div>Glyn</div><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">Glyn Roylance - Principal Consultant<div><a href="http://www.a-bc.co.uk/" target="_blank">Associated Broadcast Consultants</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 April 2015 at 13:08, Ian Hickling <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">As the trial was originated to allow access to DAB for Community Radio Licensees, I for one will be highly disappointed and probably quite verbal if this is seen to be taken over by the commercial interests.<br>Having been directly involved with 14 of the applicants and provided the technical input to their submissions, I have seen in the ones we have supported alone enough variety to cover the 10 available trial formats.<div>But unreserved compliments to Martin James and Rashid Mustapha and their colleagues at Ofcom both for persevering with the initiative - and clearly generating an excellent response.<br><br><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a><br>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:20:32 +0100<br>To: <a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a><br>CC: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Fwd: Ofcom publishes applications for small scale DAB trials<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div dir="ltr">I imagine that Ofcom might want a variety of people community / commercial to test the water.<div><br></div><div>What has been slightly frustrating is that so many applications have ticked the confidentiality box for details of their application.</div><div><br></div><div>Celador application is for a single transmitter to cover Bristol.</div><div><br></div><div>UKRD one seems to be just to cover Start Cambridge, although they have selected type 3 "An SFN carrying multiple services
based on at least two transmitter sites with one of
them an on-channel repeater (OCR)."</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br><div>On 16 April 2015 at 12:13, Alan Coote <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">I see that UKRD and Celador have made applications, the former not a member of Radio Centre (publicly they fell out over Radio Centre’s push to DAB) and Celador presumably looking at the feasibility of Small Scale DAB for their Breeze brand which is on FM only.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">This raises interesting questions regarding the commercial verses community license policy which DCMS may apply to Small Scale DAB. </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><br></div><div><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">Kind Regards</div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><span style="font-size:15px">Alan<br><br>Alan Coote<br>Executive Producer </span>Let’s Talk Business</p><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Email - </font><span style="color:blue;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a><br></span><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Phone - 0800 949 6655</font><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Mobile - 07801 518858</font><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Twitter - </font><a href="http://www.twitter.com/TheAlanCoote" style="color:blue;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px" target="_blank">@TheAlanCoote</a><br><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">Web - </font><font color="#0433ff" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><a href="http://www.5digital.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.5digital.co.uk</a><br></font><br></div></div></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223)"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> "<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, 16 April 2015 11:13<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> [cma-l] Fwd: Ofcom publishes applications for small scale DAB trials<br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Very interesting and fantastic to see 51 applications for the trial, I do wonder if Ofcom will increase / extend the trail.</div><div><br></div><div>on a side note I have plotted all the applications onto map to see areas. This can be found here: <a href="http://goo.gl/7kZ15B" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/7kZ15B</a> (Please feel free to share.</div><div><br></div><div>NOTE the map is based on application address on the website and might not mean actual coverage or station address (Example there are 3 applications at BFBS).</div><div><br></div><br><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Ofcom Updates</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Updates@maillist.ofcom.org.uk" target="_blank">Updates@maillist.ofcom.org.uk</a>></span><br>Date: 16 April 2015 at 10:30<br>Subject: Ofcom publishes applications for small scale DAB trials<br>To: "<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a>><br><br><br><u></u>
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