<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">Dear Nick,<br><br>How kind of you to remember our plight! our MCA was in fact 14,500 so even when the restrictions are lifted, generating £15,000 pa in such a small area will be a tall order, especially after the commercial repeater that stopped us in the past has cleared up any advertising in the last 10 years they have been operating.<br><br>Barry<br>WCR Community Radio<br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Canalside's The Thread <office@thethread.org.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'The Community Media
Association Discussion List' <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 18 March 2015, 13:19<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Community Radio (Amendment) Order 2015, 2:30pm Tuesday 17th March, Consideration in Grand Committee - Lord Gardiner of Kimble<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv9694696988"><style>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Cheers for this Bill …..there are a
few new ones on here from the list I had 18 months ago. I’d be interested
to know how many are actual (Community Radio Stations) in the true sense of the
word. I don’t mean that in a derogatory manner or meaning by are they
commercial Stations going under the Radar. For example I think the Colchester one is that Army Barracks isn’t it ??
and as for the Warminster one …………if they are the group
who I think they are, they were right up against it a number of years ago as
their MCA was under 50,000 let alone 150,000 !</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">OK, maybe I was slightly out, but on the
absolute spot on CR Station front, I reckon we are no more the ten</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">If we were all operating correctly and
morally this list ought to be coming back blank as there shouldn’t be
anyone on the list it is Pathetic !</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Thanks anyway</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bill Best<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> 18 March 2015 12:15<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> The
Community Media Association Discussion List<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Community
Radio (Amendment) Order 2015, 2:30pm Tuesday 17th March, Consideration in Grand
Committee - Lord Gardiner of Kimble</span></font><span lang="EN-US"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Ofcom has advised us of the following stations that are currently not
permitted to generate income from advertising and programme sponsorship:</span></font></div>
<ul type="disc"><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Angel Radio Isle of Wight</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">IÚR-fm</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">BFBS ( Colchester )</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">CSR</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Soundart Radio</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Phonic FM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Swindon</span></font>
105.5</li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Alive Radio</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Drive FM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Brick FM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Tudno FM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Point FM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Takeover Radio 106.9</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">AHBS Community Radio</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">107.8 Academy FM Thanet</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">105.9 Academy FM Folkestone</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">WCR (Warminster)</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">BFBS (Blandford)</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Abbey 104</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Bay FM
Radio</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">The Voice</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Access FM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">AIR</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Radio Glan Clwyd</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">MônFM</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Radio Beca</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;">TD1 Radio</span></font></li><li class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Raidió G</span></font></li></ul>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">The above actually
amounts to 28 licences.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">On 17 March 2015 at 17:14, Phil Edmonds <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:lists@philedmonds.info" target="_blank" href="mailto:lists@philedmonds.info">lists@philedmonds.info</a>>
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<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Interesting reading the CMA's briefing note.<br clear="none">
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A couple of observations, it says:<br clear="none">
"CMA analysis indicates there to be 88 commercial stations<br clear="none">
broadcasting to a population of fewer than 150,000). Out of these 88 stations
only 20 can be considered to be ‘genuinely independent’ "<br clear="none">
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I'd concur almost. The last Ofcom published information on coverage areas I've
seen (dated 9 May 2013) lists 89 'Analogue local' licences with MCA's under
150k. You need to discount Nevis FM who surrendered their 'commercial' licence
when awarded a Community Radio licence. Furthermore recently Radio Hafren
ceased operation, leaving 87 stations.<br clear="none">
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However of these I'd classify eight of the small Scottish stations as
"Community Radio stations with legacy 'ILR' licences". So that leaves
only six small commercial radio stations who are 'independent" of a group.<br clear="none">
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I also quote from the CMA document<br clear="none">
"The most significant change to previous restrictions on advertising and
programme sponsorship revenue is the introduction of a threshold of £15,000
commercial revenue, below which the restrictions will no longer apply. This has
two important effects.<br clear="none">
First, it will allow 18 stations that were previously prevented from receiving
such revenues, to receive up to £15,000."<br clear="none">
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I'd like to have a list of these 18 stations, as it's something that doesn't
appear to be published by Ofcom. I'm trying to do some research into the
"real world" effects of a community station near a small commercial
station, but struggling to find a full list of CR's with restrictions.<br clear="none">
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On 17/03/2015 10:46, Bill Best wrote:</span></font></div>
<div class="yiv9694696988MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Dear Members and
Supporters<br clear="none">
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The Lords debate on the Community Radio (Amendment) Order 2015 takes<br clear="none">
place today:<br clear="none">
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*Tuesday 17 March at 2.30pm*<br clear="none">
Community Radio (Amendment) Order 2015 Consideration in Grand Committee<br clear="none">
[Lord Gardiner of Kimble<br clear="none">
<<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-gardiner-of-kimble/4161">http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-gardiner-of-kimble/4161</a>>]<br clear="none">
25th Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments<br clear="none">
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You might be able to watch it online here:<br clear="none">
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More specifically here:<br clear="none">
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<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/7bc71488-225d-409e-b1f8-8bc009cc6dad">http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/7bc71488-225d-409e-b1f8-8bc009cc6dad</a><br clear="none">
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This is Part 1 of the debate; there is a fair chance that the Commons<br clear="none">
debate will be early the following week.<br clear="none">
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The CMA has prepared a supporting briefing note that has been sent to a<br clear="none">
selection of Peers. You may download this briefing from here:<br clear="none">
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Bill Best<br clear="none">
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