<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 15px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div>Alex, I guess they’ve done it on streaming capacity rather than per stream to make it easier to verify. Although I bet they would have to seriously consider the value of pursuing a station for the money given the small difference to them.</div><div><br></div><div>It seems to me that PRS/PPL/MCPS are all stuck between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand they are obliged to seek fees for use of member’s material, but on the other they often appear petty and money grabbing. </div><div><br></div><div>As content producers, I have a slightly different view than I did when running a station. It’s extremely annoying knowing that some nefarious characters would rather rip and editing our programmes than register for a pucker copy.</div><div><br></div><div>If only independent producers had an equally aggressive agency. </div><div> </div><div>Alan</div><div><div style="font-size: 14px;"><p class="Email"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;"><br></span></p><p class="Email"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;"> "</span><a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">" <</span><a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">></span></p></div></div></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> "<a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:56<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>" <<a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>>, Thread <<a href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk">office@thethread.org.uk</a>>, James Cridland <<a href="mailto:james@cridland.net">james@cridland.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [cma-l] FW: The Cost Of The DAB Trials<br></div><div><br></div><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
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Actually I think if we were on the Community Radio PPL licence terms (which is an option open to us) we might pay more than on the commercial radio terms for simulcasting.
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As far as I know, PPL's Community Radio licence for a station with Internet and DAB simulcasting is more expensive than it is for a micro commercial station, owing to the effect of PPL's minimum fee structure.I think CR licence holders would pay £1348 for FM + DAB + 50 streams, or £1561 with 100 streams), compared with a £1218 minimum for commercial licencees with Internet & DAB, but I'm not certain. Either way the difference isn't great.
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I don't see any basis for the Devil's argument that multiplatform should not be 'thrown in'. A DAB simulcast would not serve any more people for us, and In any case the number of people served is not a direct factor in PPL's licence rates. The principle underlying the Copyright Tribunal's ruling that forms the basis for the charging relies on the station's net revenue being an acceptable proxy for the real value of PPL's repertoire. The ruling also had no provision for a minimum charge to be levied.
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Another niggle with PPL's licensing is that the Internet charge for CR licencees is based on maximum number of streams permitted by the streaming server, regardless of use. We used ot have a server capable of 100 streams that rarely had more than 5 listeners - what concern is it of PPL's if for whatever reason we elect to have an underutilized stream server?
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On 12 March 2015 at 23:06 James Cridland <<a href="mailto:james@cridland.net">james@cridland.net</a>> wrote:
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<p>Alex, you said:</p>
<p>>I see no justification for any additional charge simply because you are available on two different types of radio.</p>
<p>To play devil's advocate - if you paid the commercial radio rate, you don't pay extra for internet streaming nor for DAB simulcast.</p>
<p>If you pay a lower amount for being a community station, you could argue that it is understandable that you don't get the multiplatform thrown in.</p>
<p>I'd be interested to understand whether, if you are a community radio station on FM and you also stream online and broadcast on DAB, do you end up paying more than a commercial radio licence? I'm guessing not, but I don't know.</p>
<p>(Lest you think I am backing PPL or PRS, a quick Google search will dissuade you of that thought)</p>
<p>James</p>
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