<div dir="ltr">All the costs seem reasonable apart from the greed shown by PPL insisting on a separate fee for simulcasting on DAB. It's unbelievable and I cannot see any justification for it, can they prove any loss to revenue by being aired on a trial DAB service?? I give huge credit to PRS for being realistic and encouraging these trials by waiving any extra fee as they no doubt see that there is absolutely no justification for it. <div><br></div><div>I think we should shout 'unfair' loudly and refuse to take part in the trial if we are to be subjected to this blatantly unfair and extra burden on what after all is supposed to be a trial for everyone's benefit.</div><div><br></div><div>We should take a stand !</div><div><br></div><div>I'll stop ranting now.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards to all</div><div><br></div><div>Geoff</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 March 2015 at 17:46, Two Lochs Radio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" target="_blank">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font face="Calibri">That looks about right as far as it
goes Andy, but then...</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">David Duffy of the Radio People says in his
localDAB website on the topic that to increase the chances of
succeeding most stations would benefit from a professionally-written
application, which he suggested would cost £900 upwards, or a self-written
one can be 'polished up' professionally for £250. He also estimated installation
costs at £350 upwards, typically £500. So, for stations that don't have the
resources to write a comprehensive application or do the installation
engineering that brings us to the region of:</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div>
<div><font face="Calibri">Existing FM Community
Station <strong>£1450-£2250</strong> (or more depending on installation
costs)</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri">Existing Online Only Station
<strong>£2300-£3100</strong> (or more depending on installation
costs)</font><font face="Calibri"> </font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">There are other potential costs. </font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">For example if your mast is sited in a
designated Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty or National Scenic Area (as
ours are), then you need planning permission for additional aerials (in theory
even for a small change on an existing mast), which is a another few hundred
pounds. On some sites there is a substantial (sometimes hundreds of pounds)
access or rigging supervision charge from the site owner, or a requirement to
use their nominated riggers. The station is also responsible for installation
sundries such as any extra brackets and mounting hardware.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">
<div><font face="Calibri">There are also running costs, plus probably at
the very least 100 staff/volunteer work hours. </font>The good news is the
standard setup will consume only 150W or so power, so only around £100 in
electricity.</div></font></div></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">Ofcom also says it aims ideally to have four
Type 1 trials and three each of type 2 and 3. However, it will only pay for
all the equipment for Type 1 trials, pluse two Type 2 trials and one Type 3
trials, which implies that a Type 2 triallist and two Type 3 triallists might be
invited to pay for their own equipment. In the absence of any willing to do so,
I guess they will have fewer than 10 trials, or they will simply have more Type
1 trials than they would ideally like.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">Of course, at the end of the day, even an all-in
cost over 9 months of, say, £4,000 is a probably fraction of what most
existing multiplex operations would charge you for 9 months carriage, and
presumably for some there is the possibility of the trial multiplex
operator charging a fee to partner content providers for their carriage on
the trial multiplex. (wonder if this would count as broadcast revenue in terms
of CR licence conditions?!)</font></div></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">However, after 9 months you have no
transmission equipment and no continuing licence - it is all 'sunk costs'
with little residual value. But hopefully you have some good experience of
its impact on listening habits locally, and it could be a great opportunity in
some ways. I guess it's best looked at as a glorified RSL. Let's hope that
in reality Ofcom decides to offer new long term licences for the
successful trial areas and disposes of the equipment to them for a nominal value
only.</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">I suppose another option is to sit back and let
others carry the cost of being triallists, and just wait for the
long-term small-scale opportunities to become available!</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Calibri">Alex</font></div>
<div><font face="Calibri"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:58
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] The Cost Of The DAB
Trials</div>
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<div>Hi everyone.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>We’ve done some homework regarding the cost of the DAB trials - If I’m
stating the obvious/cross posting I apologise. However, I thought you
might appreciate my sharing this with you.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Ofcom are providing the equipment but:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>You would have to pay for someone to install it etc…</div>
<div>You would have to pay for transmission site & other costs, eg.
Electric…</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Plus then there are the licence Fees…</div>
<div> </div>
<div>You'd need to apply for a DSPS Licence Cost £250</div>
<div>Ofcom have waived the Annual Fee so that saves £100</div>
<div>PPL Licence Fee is £500 + vat flat fee for the 9 months = £600</div>
<div>PRS Licence Fee is £0 if you are a licence FM Station… as long as you
don’t generate more then£29,499 in Net Broadcasting Revenue during the 9 month
trial.</div>
<div>However, If you are an online only station you must be already licenced
by them for the online service and then they will charge you £705.25 + vat =
£846.30… as long as you don’t generate more then£29,499 in Net Broadcasting
Revenue during the 9 month trial.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><strong>So the trial will cost you …</strong></div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
</span><div>Andy.</div></div>
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