<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Clive,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Now I get it! That’s a very interesting proposition.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We are looking at creating/hosting a matchmaking service to introduce content providers to multiplex operators - <a href="http://www.localDAB.co.uk/brokering" class="">www.localDAB.co.uk/brokering</a> - where the additional content providers pay their own way (DSPS licence and the two sets of copyright). We are also working with speech-only content providers who have no copyright responsibilities! Ah the holy grail - to be able to format a cost-effective speech station. It’s not as far off as people might imagine and would certainly set your application apart from the hefty competition for these ten licences.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’d be interested in what Ofcom/PRS/PPL say - keep us posted. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><a href="http://www.localDAB.co.uk/faqs" class="">www.localDAB.co.uk/faqs</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Mar 2015, at 20:14, Clive Glover <<a href="mailto:clivegloveruk@gmail.com" class="">clivegloveruk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you. I realise I didn't perhaps explain my point very well. As part of the trial it is necessary to broadcast two services in a multiplex. If we created an additional service it would need its own DSPS licence as well as our needing a DSPS licence for our existing FM service to be broadcast on DAB. So we would need two DSPS licenses plus two sets of copyright licenses.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So our thought - and question to OFCOM - was whether a time shifted version of our existing FM service would be considered as a different service or just as the same one so would not need a separate licence or copyright licenses.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The difference is cost is substantial!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Clive Glover<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad</div><div class=""><br class="">On 5 Mar 2015, at 19:39, David Duffy <<a href="mailto:david@theradiopeople.co.uk" class="">david@theradiopeople.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252" class=""><div class="">Hi Clive,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Unlike your current licence, which is for broadcasting on FM, a DSPS licence allows your content to be broadcast (time-shifted or not) on a DAB platform. So all content providers will require a DSPS licence if they don’t have one. Ofcom should have been able to answer that straight away. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The PRS and PPL fees (as they apply) are for each platform on which you broadcast. That’s why, in their returns, they ask which platforms (AM/FM/Internet) you use.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The cost of a DSPS licence is £250 . The annual fee is £100. The DSPS licence allows your service to be broadcast on a DAB multiplex (subject to being accepted by the multiplex operators). So it’s value goes beyond this trial and that’s why Ofcom did’t rescind the cost.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As you say ‘that’s radio for you’!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">More info (including, shortly, an explanation of the 3 different equipment configurations for the trial) can be found here <a href="http://www.localdab.co.uk/faqs" class="">www.localDAB.co.uk/faqs</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Mar 2015, at 18:33, Clive Glover <<a href="mailto:clivegloveruk@gmail.com" class="">clivegloveruk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class="">David<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Being creative is part of CR of course. I have asked OFCOM (but not got a response) if a + 1 hour service (i.e. our FM service time shifted) would need to have a separate DSPS licence and the same question could be asked of the copyright people I suppose. Otherwise participants in this trial will need to spend a significant amount of money - over £1,000 - on DSPS licenses for two services and copyright while almost nothing on the technical equipment etc at the core of the trial. Seems barmy but that 's radio for you!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Clive Glover</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Radio Verulam, St Albans</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">On 4 Mar 2015, at 22:49, David Duffy wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Hi All,</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Just a quick update regarding PRS and PPL liabilities for content providers on the Small Scale DAB trial multiplexes.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">We spoke with PPL today and they advised us they are levying the full £500 annual fee, payable in advance. PRS are reviewing the fee and their payment terms (which are usually quarterly in advance). They advised a decision would be forthcoming early next week. We’ll keep you posted.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">There is also a great of uncertainty regarding which licences you might need. However, we are advised that content providers will need to hold a DSPS or DAS licence (or be eligible to acquire one within 12 weeks of the multiplex owner being awarded their WTA licence). That is a separate application/licensing process to the Small Scale DAB trial initiative.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">There is a list of questions answered here <a href="http://www.localdab.co.uk/faqs" class="">www.localDAB.co.uk/faqs</a> and we are adding to them daily. There’s even a form for you to ask your own. Please do!</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">All the best,</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">David</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2 Mar 2015, at 13:03, David Duffy <<a href="mailto:david@theradiopeople.co.uk" class="">david@theradiopeople.co.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 21px;"><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial;">I just want to share that we have</span><span style="font-family: Arial; line-height: 26px;" class=""> teamed up with transplan UK to offer help and advice to any groups thinking of applying for the recently announced small scale DAB broadcasting trials.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 21px;"><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial;">For those who may have missed it, following a consultation last year, <span class="" style="color: rgb(54, 61, 66);">Ofcom has announced plans for up to ten trials of small scale DAB across the UK allowing new digital radio services to broadcast to local areas, exploring how groups of radio stations can work together.</span></span><span class="" style="color: rgb(54, 61, 66); font-family: Arial; line-height: 26px;"> </span><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(54, 61, 66);">The trials are expected to run for nine months and t</span><span class="" style="color: rgb(54, 61, 66); font-family: Arial; line-height: 26px;">he deadline for applications is 3pm on 7 April 2015.</span><span class="" style="color: rgb(54, 61, 66); font-family: Arial; line-height: 26px;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 21px;"><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(54, 61, 66);">As we all know, the cost of broadcasting on DAB radio is currently beyond the reach of many community radio stations. But this new initiative means that stations could start broadcasting on DAB radio for a fraction of current costs. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial;">For those who don’t know, transplan UK is well respected for implementing small and large scale stations. </span><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial;">The Radio People has a successful track record of winning licences on behalf of commercial and community broadcasters.</span><font face="Arial" class=""><span class="" style="line-height: 26px;"> By </span><span class="" style="line-height: 26px;">coming together we hope to </span><span class="" style="line-height: 26px;">have everything covered from the application through to implementation. Whilst </span></font><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(54, 61, 66);">Ofcom has invited a</span><span class="" style="line-height: 26px; font-family: Arial;">pplications from commercial, community and Internet broadcasters as well as new entrants to the sector, we want to make sure that community radio is well represented both as operators of the multiplex or as a content provider on a mux. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 21px;"><font face="Arial" class=""><span class="" style="line-height: 26px;"><span class="" style="color: rgb(54, 61, 66);">If you have any questions whatsoever then you can email us on our joint email <a href="mailto:team@localDAB.co.uk" class="">team@localDAB.co.uk</a> You can also follow the trials on Twitter </span></span><a href="http://www.twitter.com/localDAB" class="">@localDAB</a></font></p><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">David</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">The Radio People</font></div><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Email: <a href="mailto:david@theradiopeople.co.uk" class="">david@theradiopeople.co.uk</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class="">Website: <a href="http://theradiopeople.co.uk/" class="">www.theradiopeople.co.uk</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class="">Twitter: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/theradiopeople" class="">@theradiopeople</a></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;" class="">Facebook:<span style="color: rgb(95, 134, 255);" class=""> </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theradiopeopleuk" class="">facebook.com/theradiopeopleuk</a></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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