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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Calibri>Did Ofcom actually refuse to reply in
writing to the FOI request? If so, what were the formal grounds for
refusal?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Calibri></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Calibri>I agree that the process and its criteria should
be open, and it's hard to see convincing reasons for why it shouldn't be. They
are guardians of a very scarce public property - FM spectrum, and should be
using open and objective criteria to grant its use.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Calibri>Alex</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=alan.coote@5digital.co.uk
href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk">Alan Coote</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">'The Community Media Association
Discussion List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 05, 2015 5:17
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cma-l] Officialdom</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><A name=_MailEndCompose><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
asked Ofcom to explain their scoring process by way of a Freedom of
Information Request.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></A></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This
created quite a bit of excitement in Ofcom and many phone calls. They were
more than happy to talk over the phone but not answer in
writing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
have long believed that the process is floored because it is not repeatable.
For example if you send in two averagely good and identical applications they
should arrive at the same result, but it’s difficult to see how this is the
case.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It’s
normal in government contracts to know the criteria and scoring scheme prior
to application. Without this Government would open themselves up to
litigation. Ofcom’s decision is final, there are no appeals and they are not
transparent. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Most
people, I think would find that undemocratic.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kind
Regards</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Alan<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <B>On Behalf Of </B>David
Duffy<BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 February 2015 16:07<BR><B>To:</B> Ian
Hickling<BR><B>Cc:</B> The Community Media Association Discussion
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cma-l]
Officialdom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I think that’s an excellent idea. All in the spirit of
‘open government'. One for Dom and Ed to discuss over a slice of cake I
feel.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>David<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On 5 Feb 2015, at 13:57, Ian Hickling <<A
href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Maybe we should formally ask to
be shown the procedure - as it has a very direct effect on Applicants'
businesses?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">From:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:david@theradiopeople.co.uk">david@theradiopeople.co.uk</A><BR>Date:
Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:08:49 +0000<BR>To:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:cma@nnbc.co.uk">cma@nnbc.co.uk</A><BR>CC:<SPAN
class=apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [cma-l] Officialdom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">It
would be interesting to hear a summary of people’s experience on this as
there is no published process.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<UL type=disc>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As we
all know, the list of applicants is first published followed, a few days
later, by the application documents (once the confidential sections have
been redacted). <o:p></o:p></SPAN>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">We
understand the application is broken into various sections and 'farmed
out’ to specialists in each area. <o:p></o:p></SPAN>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">We can’t
identify any discernible order that Ofcom use for prioritising which
applications to look at from a region. <o:p></o:p></SPAN>
<LI
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If Ofcom
has a query regarding anything in your application they will invariably
email you. Our experience is that their questions are not worded
particularly well (this could be intentional). So be careful how you
answer them - don’t offer more that they are asking or you could dig
yourself into a hole!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></LI></UL>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">In
short, that’s our experience on behalf of our clients. Anyone
else?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">David<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
Radio People<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR><240 x 240
copy.jpg><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><BR>Email:
<A
href="mailto:david@theradiopeople.co.uk">david@theradiopeople.co.uk</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Website:
<A href="http://theradiopeople.co.uk/"
target=_blank>www.theradiopeople.co.uk</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Twitter:
<A href="http://www.twitter.com/theradiopeople"
target=_blank>@theradiopeople</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Facebook:<SPAN
style="COLOR: #5f86ff"> </SPAN><A
href="https://www.facebook.com/theradiopeopleuk"
target=_blank>facebook.com/theradiopeopleuk</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">On 5
Feb 2015, at 10:07, Terry Doyle <<A
href="mailto:cma@nnbc.co.uk">cma@nnbc.co.uk</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Hi
All,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Can
anyone provide me with some information on how those OFCOM process
community licence applications they've received... or is subject to the
Official Secrets Act (shoot me now!) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Just
spoke to and 'representative' and boy do they know how to 'answer' probing
questions without 'answering' probing
questions. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Why
am I asking this? Oh just curious! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Terry
Doyle <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">NNBC,
Northampton<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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