<div dir="ltr"><div><div>When I was running RLSs with The Phoenix (as it was known then) and Mayflower FM (if anyone remembers that!) back in 1995-1996 I was charging a basic package of £250 a month for spot ads.<br><br></div>And I still am! (Although everything is yearly and negotiated up or down from there).<br><br></div>According to various websites, 20 years of inflation is about 73% so £250 then is worth £434 today.<br><br><div><br><br><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 February 2015 at 11:11, Tony Bailey <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk" target="_blank">ravensound@pilgrimsound.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>There&#39;s a great deal of good advice on
      this thread and I don&#39;t have a take on 24/7 operation, although
      our experience over many years of RSLs was that we could always
      sell spots locally to cover our licence costs even though I was
      never sure the shops got more customers!  The basic rate was
      around 50 quid excluding production (1980&#39;s - 90&#39;s) for 28 days
      (cash up front!).  One thing no one has mentioned I think, we
      closed down a few shops, or rather, they were using radio as a
      last gasp attempt!  Another thing, don&#39;t let anyone tell you that
      small scale commercial radio is bad competition - we certainly
      generated customers for ILR after we introduced them to radio
      advertising.<br>
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      Tony Bailey<span class=""><br>
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      On 02/02/15 18:14, David Duffy wrote:<br>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15px">Alan
              asked &#39;Can your station survive if you charge 23p per
              spot?&#39;  The short answer is probably, so long as that is
              not your only product. </span></font></div>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px">Don’t forget, clients will
            expect a discount if they buy more that one spot so that 23p
            at list will rapidly become 16p at discount. Then you have
            to ask, will the discounted price cover the cost of sales
            (COS)?  If not then raise the list price.  If it does cover
            COS then at least it’s making some (small) contribution to
            the business. Whether it contributes to your profitability
            depends on your underlying costs.  And we all know their are
            great disparities in this sector when it comes to operating
            costs.</span></div>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px">The problem with
            underpricing a product is that the perceived value is
            reduced.  And remember - the value is not related to the
            worth. Worth is the language of the seller and is about what
            the seller can get. Value is the language of the buyer and
            is about the <span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)">usefulness
              or desirability of the product to the buyer. Value is not
              a number.  Sometimes, as Nick pointed out so graphically,
              some prospective customers cannot see the value (even if
              you gave it to them for free!).  Equally, as Alan points
              out rising the price can work.  I often recount the story
              of how </span></span><font color="#333333"><span style="font-size:15px">Remington increased the
              price for its electric razors and gained more customers
              because people associated the low price with low value.
               Raising the price raised the perceived value. </span></font></div>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font color="#333333"><span style="font-size:15px">Pippa’s ‘Enterprise
              hour’ keys into an emerging trend for &#39;native advertising&#39;
              that we are working on with a number of community
              stations. It allow stations to attract income by airing
              content that is of interest to listeners and doesn’t
              compromise the non-commercial sound of the station.</span></font></div>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px"><font color="#333333">I&#39;ve done a lot of work on product and
              service pricing over the years and it often bears no
              relationship either to worth or value. We have </font><a href="http://www.theradiopeople.co.uk/pricing" target="_blank">this
              simple table</a><font color="#333333"> which you
              might find useful.  It shows </font></span><a href="http://www.theradiopeople.co.uk/pricing" target="_blank">the
            6 pricing strategies</a><span style="font-size:15px"><font color="#333333"> that are most
              commonly used in radio.  Enjoy!</font></span></div>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px"><font color="#333333">All the best</font></span></div>
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        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px"><font color="#333333">David</font></span></div>
        <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px"><font color="#333333">Senior Partner - The Radio People</font></span></div>
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          <div>On 2 Feb 2015, at 17:17, Pippa at Curly Radio
            &lt;<a href="mailto:pippa@curlyradio.com" target="_blank">pippa@curlyradio.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
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                <div>My goodness I’m surprised to read that you
                  wanted to charge charities to advertise their
                  events.    Before I set up Wycombe Sound, another CR
                  practitioner warned me “not to bring a charity in,
                  because otherwise they will all want a go”.</div>
                <div> </div>
                <div>In Wycombe, over two RSLs we actively
                  invited charities to come in and talk about their work
                  and events.  Many did, and with only the shortest
                  reference to fundraising as we wound up the
                  interviews.  Listeners loved hearing about all the
                  good work which was going on under their noses, which
                  otherwise they wouldn’t know about.</div>
                <div> </div>
                <div>As a result of the interesting and varied
                  local content, which obviously contained more than
                  just interviews with charities, the audience built
                  quickly and businesses came knocking with cash in hand<span> </span><em>because
                    they knew we were reaching listeners.</em> </div>
                <div> </div>
                <div>Going further, in Wycombe Sound’s most
                  recent outing, we invited ‘very small businesses’ –
                  the sole traders, crafters, mobile hairdressers and
                  beauticians, chimney sweeps etc, to come in for 5
                  minutes and talk about their businesses for free. We
                  called it “Enterprise Hour” and ran it once a week for
                  four weeks.  I thought we would be inundated, but we
                  weren’t – I think that type of slot takes time to
                  build – but the listeners loved it because it roused
                  their interest.  Again, we had lots of interest in
                  advertising from the business sector.  In fact, we had
                  to turn some away because we couldn’t give them an
                  impact in the short time we had remaining.</div>
                <div> </div>
                <div>I’m sure different strategies work for
                  different stations.  For me though, the content comes
                  first and that in turn will build audience and
                  revenue.</div>
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                <div>Pippa</div>
                <div><a href="tel:07973%20710963" value="+447973710963" target="_blank">07973 710963</a></div>
                <div>@curly_radio</div>
                <div>@wycombesound</div>
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                      <div><b>From:</b><span> </span><a title="alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">Alan Coote</a></div>
                      <div><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday,
                        February 02, 2015 4:41 PM</div>
                      <div><b>To:</b><span> </span><a title="cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">&#39;The Community Media
                          Association Discussion List&#39;</a></div>
                      <div><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
                        [cma-l] Community Radio Spot Rate</div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a name="14b4f2390a60c3ab__MailEndCompose"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">I had the same problem when running
                          The Bay in Poole and Bournemouth. Without a
                          word of a lie, 3 different charities phoned
                          one morning asking for commercial airtime for
                          free. I asked if they had any budget for
                          advertising their events, 2 said yes. But none
                          thought that we would charge!<u></u><u></u></span></a></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Back
                        to the spot rate… I don’t know any station who
                        can sell all their inventory at full rate card,
                        so rather than £80 a day think just £20.   <span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Here’s
                        another tail  - At The Bay we doubled our
                        published rates and guess what, we attracted
                        bigger and better clients. Yes there we’re fewer
                        and I’m not suggesting that money was rolling
                        in, it wasn’t, but it stopped us going broke. It
                        also meant we were selling  to companies needing
                        to raise awareness as much as generate leads –
                        an important factor for small stations.    <span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">To add
                        a bit of perspective, most local commercial
                        stations won’t get out of bed to sell a package
                        for less than £1000 at spots rates around £4
                        upwards, it’s just not worth their while. The
                        minimum to get on a Heart station is around
                        £4500 and a regional is near double that.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Commercial
                        sales – yes been there, it’s difficult, but a
                        rate of 23p a spot is surely putting the station
                        at risk?  <span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                      <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Kind Regards</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                            The Thread<br>
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                            February 2015 15:06<br>
                            <b>To:</b><span> </span>&#39;The
                            Community Media Association Discussion List&#39;<br>
                            <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
                            [cma-l] Community Radio Spot Rate<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">Mmm
                        ?……………there’s the old adage           ‘’we’re
                        worth, what we can get’’    and no more.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">It’s a bit
                        similar to going to a record fair, it depends
                        which area you go to. A vintage record on the
                        circuit and going for around £75 quid, might
                        only fetch £15 at a different venue.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">Some areas
                        are more wealthy than others ?   is this Station
                        operating in an area of deprivation and less
                        businesses per-head ?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">It’s a
                        learning curve setting the rates …. What some
                        consider cost effective others may think too
                        much                we have a Package 1 … it
                        cost’s = £123.34p for the WHOLE YEAR     I won’t
                        go into what you get but certainly a pub or
                        organisation that put events is onto a winner as
                        they get to use our events planner for free,
                        they get an advert popping up here and there and
                        a logo on the website ……..one woman who runs a
                        bar in Macclesfield told me that our prices
                        were      wait for it    ‘’extortionate’’ 
                        !!!     her words not mine, and how could any
                        business afford that sort of cost ??
                        !                    I explained   ‘’no no
                        no’’   ‘’there seems to be a
                        misunderstanding’’   ‘’this isn’t weekly or
                        monthly, this is for the whole year’’<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">She said
                        words to the effect of ‘’no chance’’      <span> </span><u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">The business
                        does appear here and there but mainly in the
                        areas where they can FREE-LOAD. And there lies
                        another problem …. Some people seem to think
                        that because we are Community Radio and we are
                        Voluntary led then everything for some bizarre
                        reason is free ??      this Lady was of a
                        similar opinion, and got quite uppity.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">I informed
                        her that I was coming to Town on the Friday with
                        6 of my mates, and we were so enthused by the
                        Bar that we were going to spend the whole
                        evening in there drinking ……….. presuming of
                        course that all the Beer was free   ??????<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">Even after
                        being sarcastic, she simply didn’t ‘get it’
                        ??     it seems to be rife in our business
                        doesn’t it ?   this ‘’’not getting it’’’ ?<u></u><u></u></span></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:navy">Nick<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                      <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><span> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Alan
                          Coote<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b><span> </span>02
                          February 2015 14:37<br>
                          <b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>;<span> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[cma-l]
                          Community Radio Spot Rate</span><span lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Can
                      your station survive if you charge 23p per spot?<u></u><u></u></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
                      just had a 2 minute look around the web at
                      community radio rate cards and found a station (it
                      shall remain nameless) which, even if they sold
                      their whole inventory 24x7, would make less than
                      £80 per day.<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The
                      reality is more likely to be £20 per day income at
                      that spot rate. <span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As
                      far as I can tell the station isn’t funded by a
                      parent organisation, they don’t run a membership
                      scheme and there’s little off air income either,
                      so it’s difficult to see how they could manage
                      their running costs. <span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u> </div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Personally
                      I think this is nuts and also devalues the
                      medium.  Come on guys… know your worth. <span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Kind
                      Regards<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Alan<u></u><u></u></div>
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                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Alan
                      Coote<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Managing
                      Director<u></u><u></u></div>
                    <div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">5
                      Digital Limited<u></u><u></u></div>
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