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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Aren't we relying here on the false concept of a finite advertising spend?<div>The big selling point of CR is that it encourages additional levels of advertising that previously couldn't exist on an expense and span basis.</div><div><br></div><div>----------------------------------------------------</div><div> <br><br><div>> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 14:53:44 +0000<br>> From: lists@philedmonds.info<br>> To: cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio changes<br>> <br>> The Radio Centre's reply is totally expected. They represent a group of <br>> commercial businesses. Any change of legislation with a possible <br>> negative impact on the revenues of their members would obviously not be <br>> welcomed.<br>> <br>> If all 200 odd Community Radio stations went out and sold their extra <br>> £15k allowance then then whatever size of the commercial radio company I <br>> was I'd be at least taking notice that a third of a million of the <br>> sectors income being redirected to community radio.<br>> <br>> Now that's taking the view that this extra community radio income is <br>> coming from commercial radio's 'slice of the total advertising pie' and <br>> not from local press or on-line's 'slice'. There is also a case to be <br>> made that these extra community radio advertising sales may serve to <br>> increase the size of the pie, by bring on board small businesses who <br>> previously didn't make a media spend.<br>> <br>> <br>> At the end of the day it's all relative.<br>> <br>> Nick mentioned Tudno in Llandudno. What is their possible impact on the <br>> local small commercial radio station? Their local analogue commercial <br>> radio licence, formally "Marcher Coast", is now part of the shared North <br>> Wales 'Heart' which then changed to be a 'Capital' service.<br>> <br>> A breakdown of sales for each licence area is not public, but the <br>> accounts for 'Marcher Radio Group' in year ending 2012 report a turnover <br>> of 2.7 million. Llandudno Community Radio turnover at the same time was <br>> 29 thousand.<br>> <br>> In the intervening years Marcher Radio Group's turnover has increased to <br>> 3.4 million last financial year. The community radio group started <br>> filing abbreviated accounts, so I haven't got turnover figures for <br>> following years, but can assume that they have broadly remained the same <br>> in line with sector averages as reported by Ofcom.<br>> <br>> So for each community radio station in Marcher Radio Groups patch (I can <br>> think of at least four off the top of my head), under the new 15k rule <br>> could mean that they could loose up to 0.5% of their revenue per <br>> community station next year. But in the past two years they have <br>> actually increased their revenue by 25%. Having said that last year was <br>> the first year since 2005 that Marcher Radio Group didn't make a loss.<br>> <br>> I'd wager that Marcher Radio Group's renewed success will be down to <br>> being part of a big group and would be reasonable to assume having a <br>> "better" sales operation.<br>> <br>> Community radios impact in North Wales can only be extremely minor on <br>> the finances of commercial radio at this scale. I can't realistically <br>> see any North Wales community station being able to bring in hundreds of <br>> thousands of increased advertising sales, especially as it still needs <br>> to be 'match funded' to some degree.<br>> <br>> Is the impact likely to be more significant somewhere else in the case <br>> of a small independent standalone commercial radio service overlapping <br>> with a community station? That'll be one for another day to try and <br>> crunch some numbers.<br>> <br>> Phil.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 23/01/2015 11:09, James Cridland wrote:<br>> > You're not really comparing like with like. For the Global and Bauer's<br>> > of this world, they account for a large chunk of national advertising<br>> > and large regional advertising. Community radio isn't in this market.<br>> ><br>> > Small local commercial stations rely most heavily on smaller, local<br>> > advertisers. Where some have two or three community stations in their<br>> > patch, the prospect of potentially losing £35k of ad revenue a year is,<br>> > of course, going to be a concern.<br>> ><br>> > RadioCentre represents many different operators, not just Global and<br>> > Bauer. It is right to acknowledge that for some smaller independent<br>> > operators - many of which do not make appreciable profit - this change<br>> > will not be welcome.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:45 Den Packer <d.packer@csrfm.com<br>> > <mailto:d.packer@csrfm.com>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > It would seem that way Cat. And even more of a reason to ignore them<br>> > when you read these stats from the link that Glyn posted.<br>> ><br>> > "Community radio currently has a 0.7% share of radio advertising in<br>> > the UK (source Ofcom Communications Market report 2014). If all CR<br>> > stations take 100% advantage of the new £15k advertising ability it<br>> > will increase to around 1.4% – hardly earth shattering."<br>> ><br>> > 'nuff said?<br>> ><br>> > Den<br>> > CSR FM<br>> ><br>> > *Dennison Packer | Media Co-ordinator | CSRfm<br>> > **Tel:***01227 816101 | *Website*: *www.csrfm.com<br>> > <http://www.csrfm.com> | *97.4 FM in Canterbury | @CSRfm<br>> > <http://www.twitter.com/csrfm><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 22 January 2015 at 18:51, <cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Send cma-l mailing list submissions to<br>> > cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk <mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> ><br>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> > http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> > cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> ><br>> > You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> > cma-l-owner@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-owner@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> ><br>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> > than "Re: Contents of cma-l digest..."<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Today's Topics:<br>> ><br>> > 1. Re: RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio changes<br>> > (Cat Lake)<br>> > 2. Re: RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio changes<br>> > (Two Lochs Radio)<br>> > 3. Re: RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio changes<br>> > (Canalside's The Thread)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > Message: 1<br>> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:35:09 +0000<br>> > From: Cat Lake <connect@catlake.uk <mailto:connect@catlake.uk>><br>> > To: martin@martinsteers.co.uk<br>> > <mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk>, CMA-Mailing-List<br>> > <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk>><br>> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio<br>> > changes<br>> > Message-ID:<br>> ><br>> > <CAAERnb4dYhHtn7kwAV3sr9OMudzV8biCpTK0fD2Wfk-D2zxcSA@mail.gmail.com<br>> > <mailto:CAAERnb4dYhHtn7kwAV3sr9OMudzV8biCpTK0fD2Wfk-D2zxcSA@mail.gmail.com>><br>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> ><br>> > Just ignore this. It's not like we've gone from no advertising to<br>> > unlimited. We've been competing for local advertising for years<br>> > now. Stupid<br>> > people.<br>> ><br>> > Cat<br>> > On Jan 22, 2015 2:52 PM, "Martin Steers"<br>> > <martin@martinsteers.co.uk <mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk>><br>> > wrote:<br>> ><br>> > > Via Radio Today:<br>> > ><br>> > http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/radiocentre-unimpressed-with-community-radio-changes/<br>> > ><br>> > > RadioCentre, the industry body for commercial radio, says<br>> > changes to the<br>> > > way community radio stations can fund themselves is a concern for<br>> > > commercial stations.<br>> > ><br>> > > The Government today said<br>> > ><br>> > <http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/community-radio-order-updated/> the<br>> > > not-for-profit stations can now make the majority of its<br>> > income from<br>> > > advertising, rather than the previous 50% rule.<br>> > ><br>> > > Siobhan Kenny, Chief Executive of RadioCentre said: ?This is a<br>> > > disappointing outcome and will be a real cause for concern<br>> > for small<br>> > > commercial radio stations where margins are already squeezed.<br>> > ><br>> > > ?The changes proposed by the Department of Culture, Media and<br>> > Sport (DCMS)<br>> > > risk blurring the lines between community and commercial<br>> > stations and puts<br>> > > them in direct competition for limited local advertising,<br>> > alongside local<br>> > > press, local television and online.<br>> > ><br>> > > ?Community radio can perform a valuable complementary role to<br>> > commercial<br>> > > radio and the BBC, but it must offer something significantly<br>> > different to<br>> > > the communities it serves. Any changes must be accompanied by<br>> > a renewed<br>> > > emphasis on enforcement and compliance with the key<br>> > commitments of these<br>> > > stations.?<br>> > ><br>> > > The Government?s announcement follows a consultation carried<br>> > out by the<br>> > > DCMS launched in February 2013.<br>> > ><br>> > > More details on today?s changes can be found here<br>> > > <http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/community-radio-order-updated/>.<br>> > ><br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > ><br>> > > Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk <mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk><br>> > ><br>> > > The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the<br>> > Community<br>> > > Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> > > http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> > > Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > ><br>> > > Mailing list guidelines:<br>> > ><br>> > http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> > > _______________________________________________<br>> > ><br>> > > To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription<br>> > please visit:<br>> > > http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>> > ><br>> > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > URL:<br>> > <http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/pipermail/cma-l/attachments/20150122/ee0fb98a/attachment.html><br>> ><br>> > ------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > Message: 2<br>> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:43:44 -0000<br>> > From: "Two Lochs Radio" <tlr@gairloch.co.uk<br>> > <mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk>><br>> > To: "The Community Media Association Discussion List"<br>> > <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk>><br>> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio<br>> > changes<br>> > Message-ID: <F87C18B650A048FEA0BA4A100D30EEC0@wwpc04><br>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>> ><br>> > I agree that with a ?15,000 cap there is no serious threat from<br>> > community stations to most commercial stations, but I'm not sure<br>> > you're right regarding spot rates. Many very small commercial<br>> > stations charge ?4-12 per 30s spot. Is that an order of<br>> > magnitude higher than those CR stations that can sell commercial<br>> > time?<br>> ><br>> > I might have a distorted picture from the commercial/community<br>> > overlap that exists in Scotland, but I always had the impression<br>> > there was significant rate overlap in the ?5-10/spot region<br>> > between CR advertising rates (where available) and very small<br>> > commercial station ratecards.<br>> ><br>> > Alex<br>> > ----- Original Message -----<br>> > From: Geoff Rogers<br>> > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:21 PM<br>> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community<br>> > radio changes<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Even the smallest commercial radio stations have advertising<br>> > rates an order of magnitude higher than many (most?) Community<br>> > Radio stations. (I work in both sectors so I think I have the<br>> > right to comment here.)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Therefore customers of Community Radio stations would be very<br>> > unlikely to take out advertising on the local commercial<br>> > station, so RadioCentre do not have a point here.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > It's this kind of comment that further alienates commercial<br>> > radio operators while co-operation between the two, can and does<br>> > work.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > These opinions are my own.<br>> > -------------- next part --------------<br>> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> > URL:<br>> > <http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/pipermail/cma-l/attachments/20150122/3c227e23/attachment.html><br>> ><br>> > ------------------------------<br>> ><br>> > Message: 3<br>> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:49:33 -0000<br>> > From: "Canalside's The Thread" <office@thethread.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:office@thethread.org.uk>><br>> > To: "'The Community Media Association Discussion List'"<br>> > <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk>><br>> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio<br>> > changes<br>> > Message-ID:<br>> ><br>> > <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJdWVmK8n0ZDnFrnt7yKPuLCgAAAEAAAAIoYk2n0xVNBmtTHf+krZdcBAAAAAA==@thethread.org.uk<br>> > <http://thethread.org.uk>><br>> ><br>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> ><br>> > The middle bit is the key bit here SOMEONE IN THE<br>> > COMMERCIAL<br>> > SECTOR DOESN'T HAVE A POINT<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > That has always been the point, my point, your point, the<br>> > Community Radio<br>> > point .. They don't have a point, never have and never will,<br>> > there is no<br>> > point.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Finally, has no one ever thought that if the rules go and the<br>> > 50% even gets<br>> > wavered, we could reduce our prices right down on an individual<br>> > basis (which<br>> > we do anyway) and then business4es in the Community could run<br>> > with both<br>> > and it wouldn't cost that much more and then we would all be happy.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I am desperately trying to walk away from this debate and weigh<br>> > up the<br>> > options . they ain't looking good at the minute. I can't walk<br>> > away because<br>> > I'm getting wound up again. I wanted to remain calm ....why are<br>> > words like<br>> > 'cop-out' 'hoodwinked' 'shafted' 'conned' 'bottled out'<br>> > springing to mind ?? something must be amiss<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > I would like to receive an e-mail from someone / anyone who<br>> > thinks this is<br>> > brilliant ! I'm not going to argue or fall out as you are<br>> > entitled to your<br>> > opinion, and if you think that something has been gained (which<br>> > I'm not sure<br>> > if you add the others bits to the debate) it's just a bit of<br>> > a token<br>> > gesture.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > There's another one 'token gesture'<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Thoughts please ? obviously we have to be careful<br>> > here that we<br>> > don't undermine the efforts of Bill and Dom .. This is NOT a<br>> > criticism of<br>> > them, they have got out of this all that could be got out of it<br>> > as it is the<br>> > mindset at the top and the mindset in Government that has<br>> > swerved. Well it<br>> > hasn't, it was never on the straight and narrow from the outset.<br>> ><br>> > Number 6 deserves a pat on the back for everyone though .. and I<br>> > mean<br>> > everyone .they have moved well over half-way on that one.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Nick<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _____<br>> ><br>> > From: cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> > [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk>] On Behalf Of<br>> > Geoff Rogers<br>> > Sent: 22 January 2015 18:22<br>> > To: The Community Media Association Discussion List<br>> > Subject: Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community<br>> > radio changes<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Even the smallest commercial radio stations have advertising<br>> > rates an order<br>> > of magnitude higher than many (most?) Community Radio stations.<br>> > (I work in<br>> > both sectors so I think I have the right to comment here.)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Therefore customers of Community Radio stations would be very<br>> > unlikely to<br>> > take out advertising on the local commercial station, so<br>> > RadioCentre do not<br>> > have a point here.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > It's this kind of comment that further alienates commercial<br>> > radio operators<br>> > while co-operation between the two, can and does work.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > These opinions are my own.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 22 January 2015 at 16:58, Alan Coote<br>> > <alan.coote@5digital.co.uk <mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk>><br>> > wrote:<br>> ><br>> > "[CR] must offer something significantly different to the<br>> > communities it<br>> > serves";<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > True. I think many of my commercial radio friends would agree,<br>> > that's a bit<br>> > rich coming from the head of a sector which is better resourced<br>> > and funded<br>> > than CR, yet over the years has lacked innovation and all but<br>> > erased any<br>> > creativity.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Just a thought.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Alan<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > From: cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk><br>> > [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>> > <mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk>] On Behalf Of<br>> > Martin Steers<br>> > Sent: 22 January 2015 14:46<br>> > To: CMA-Mailing-List<br>> > Subject: [cma-l] RadioCentre unimpressed with community radio<br>> > changes<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Via Radio Today:<br>> > http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/radiocentre-unimpressed-with-community-radio<br>> > -changes/<br>> > <http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/radiocentre-unimpressed-with-community-radio%0D-changes/><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > RadioCentre, the industry body for commercial radio, says<br>> > changes to the way<br>> > community radio stations can fund themselves is a concern for<br>> > commercial<br>> > stations.<br>> ><br>> > The Government today<br>> > <http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/community-radio-order-updated/><br>> > said the<br>> > not-for-profit stations can now make the majority of its income from<br>> > advertising, rather than the previous 50% rule.<br>> ><br>> > Siobhan Kenny, Chief Executive of RadioCentre said: "This is a<br>> > disappointing<br>> > outcome and will be a real cause for concern for small<br>> > commercial radio<br>> > stations where margins are already squeezed.<br>> ><br>> > "The changes proposed by the Department of Culture, Media and<br>> > Sport (DCMS)<br>> > risk blurring the lines between community and commercial<br>> > stations and puts<br>> > them in direct competition for limited local advertising,<br>> > alongside local<br>> > press, local television and online.<br>> ><br>> > "Community radio can perform a valuable complementary role to<br>> > commercial<br>> > radio and the BBC, but it must offer something significantly<br>> > different to<br>> > the communities it serves. Any changes must be accompanied by a<br>> > renewed<br>> > emphasis on enforcement and compliance with the key commitments<br>> > of these<br>> > stations."<br>> ><br>> > The Government's announcement follows a consultation carried out<br>> > by the DCMS<br>> > launched in February 2013.<br>> ><br>> > More details on today's changes can be found<br>> > <http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/community-radio-order-updated/><br>> > here.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk <mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk><br>> ><br>> > The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the<br>> > Community Media<br>> > Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> > http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation<br>> > Canstream Internet Radio & Video: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > Mailing list guidelines:<br>> > http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/<br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><br>> > To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription<br>> > please visit:<br>> > http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --<br>> ><br>> > Geoff Rogers<br>> > Programme Director<br>> > Susy Radio, Local Community Radio for Redhill and Reigate<br>> > On-air across Sussex and Surrey on 103.4FM NOW<br>> > Web: susyradio.com <http://susyradio.com> <http://www.susyradio.com><br>> ><br>> > Susy Radio Ltd. 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