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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The middle bit is the key bit
here SOMEONE IN THE
COMMERCIAL SECTOR DOESN’T HAVE A POINT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That has always been the point, my point,
your point, the Community Radio point …. They don’t have a point,
never have and never will, there is no point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Finally, has no one ever thought that if
the rules go and the 50% even gets wavered, we could reduce our prices right
down on an individual basis (which we do anyway) and then
business4es in the Community could run with both and it wouldn’t cost
that much more and then we would all be happy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am desperately trying to walk away from
this debate and weigh up the options … they ain’t looking good at
the minute. I can’t walk away because I’m getting wound up again. I
wanted to remain calm ……….why are words like ‘cop-out’
‘hoodwinked’ ‘shafted’ ‘conned’
‘bottled out’ springing to mind
?? something must be amiss<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would like to receive an e-mail from
someone / anyone who thinks this is brilliant ! I’m not going
to argue or fall out as you are entitled to your opinion, and if you think that
something has been gained (which I’m not sure if you add the others bits
to the debate) it’s just a bit of a token gesture.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There’s another one ‘token
gesture’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thoughts please
?
obviously we have to be careful here that we don’t undermine the efforts
of Bill and Dom …. This is NOT a criticism of them, they have got out of
this all that could be got out of it as it is the mindset at the top and the
mindset in Government that has swerved. Well it hasn’t, it was never on
the straight and narrow from the outset.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Number 6 deserves a pat on the back for
everyone though …… and I mean everyone .they have moved well over
half-way on that one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Geoff Rogers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 22 January 2015 18:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">The
Community Media Association Discussion List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] RadioCentre
unimpressed with community radio changes</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Even the smallest commercial radio stations have advertising rates an
order of magnitude higher than many (most?) Community Radio stations. (I
work in both sectors so I think I have the right to comment here.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Therefore customers of Community Radio stations would be very unlikely
to take out advertising on the local commercial station, so RadioCentre do not
have a point here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It's this kind of comment that further alienates commercial radio
operators while co-operation between the two, can and does work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>These opinions are my own.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 22 January 2015 at 16:58, Alan Coote <<a
href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="14b129716374771a__MailEndCompose"><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>“[CR]
must offer something significantly different to the communities it
serves”; </span></font></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>True… I think many of my commercial radio friends
would agree, that’s a bit rich coming from the head of a sector which is
better resourced and funded than CR, yet over the years has lacked innovation
and all but erased any creativity. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Just a thought…</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Steers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 22 January 2015 14:46<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CMA-Mailing-List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] RadioCentre
unimpressed with community radio changes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Via Radio
Today: <a
href="http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/radiocentre-unimpressed-with-community-radio-changes/"
target="_blank">http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/radiocentre-unimpressed-with-community-radio-changes/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:16.5pt'><font size=2 color="#363636"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#363636'>RadioCentre,
the industry body for commercial radio, says changes to the way community radio
stations can fund themselves is a concern for commercial stations.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:16.5pt'><font size=2 color="#363636"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#363636'>The
Government today <a
href="http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/community-radio-order-updated/"
target="_blank" title="Community Radio funding rules updated"><font
color="#0088cc"><span style='color:#0088CC;text-decoration:none'>said</span></font></a> the
not-for-profit stations can now make the majority of its income from
advertising, rather than the previous 50% rule.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:16.5pt'><font size=2 color="#363636"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#363636'>Siobhan
Kenny, Chief Executive of RadioCentre said: “This is a disappointing
outcome and will be a real cause for concern for small commercial radio
stations where margins are already squeezed.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:16.5pt'><font size=2 color="#363636"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#363636'>“The
changes proposed by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) risk
blurring the lines between community and commercial stations and puts them in
direct competition for limited local advertising, alongside local press, local
television and online.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:16.5pt'><font size=2 color="#363636"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#363636'>“Community
radio can perform a valuable complementary role to commercial radio and the
BBC, but it must offer something significantly different to the communities it
serves. Any changes must be accompanied by a renewed emphasis on enforcement
and compliance with the key commitments of these stations.”</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:7.5pt;line-height:16.5pt'><font size=2 color="#363636"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#363636'>The
Government’s announcement follows a consultation carried out by the DCMS
launched in February 2013.<br>
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More details on today’s changes can be found <a
href="http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/01/community-radio-order-updated/"
target="_blank" title="Community Radio funding rules updated"><font
color="#0088cc"><span style='color:#0088CC;text-decoration:none'>here</span></font></a>.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Programme Director<br>
Susy Radio, Local Community Radio for Redhill and <st1:place w:st="on">Reigate</st1:place><br>
On-air across <st1:country-region w:st="on">Sussex</st1:country-region> and <st1:place
w:st="on">Surrey</st1:place> on 103.4FM NOW<br>
Web: <a href="http://susyradio.com">susyradio.com</a> <<a
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and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
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