<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>RAJAR 'other' is non RAJAR subscribed radio services. A service that does not participate in RAJAR (pay). </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16.3636360168457px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16.3636360168457px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Cridland <james@cridland.net><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> The Community Media Association Discussion List <cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 21 January 2015, 18:41<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Order<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv952585232">Alex: "Aren't RAJAR respondents who can tick 'other' living only in the areas where at least one station is a RAJAR member?" - maybe. The BBC runs ten national networks, plus Scotland/Wales/Ulster, and that commercial radio also measures a lot on a national basis, so there is a requirement for national coverage. But even if your assertion is true, is there really a significant population who don't have *any* local RAJAR'd station covering their area? <div><br></div><div>"In our own area the reach of community radio by three high sampling surveys over a
12-year period has indicated a fairly steady weekly reach of 60-70% of the adult population." - great, good for you, but I suspect 2LR is the exception rather than the rule. As one example, Asian Star Radio in Slough broadcasts to British Asians, who only make up 33% of the population... <span style="line-height:1.5;">I can't get the 10m figure to stack up, I'm afraid.</span></div><div><br></div><div>Paul: Thanks for that. 20% in your licence area (definitely an area with a RAJAR subscriber!) is a good figure, I think. I've seen more online activity for Phoenix FM than I've seen for any community radio service (since you appear to be fairly active on Google+ where I spend a bit of time) - good for you.</div><div><br></div><div>Alan: "‘Other’ actually includes some commercial stations and not just community radio." - yes, I'd agree. I've assumed for my "500k" estimate that EVERYONE who has ticked the 'other' box in a community radio transmission
area is ticking it because of community radio. If you're saying this is unrealistically high, I'd probably agree with you.</div><div><br></div><div>"The size of the survey is not important it’s the percentage error and repeatability. I would be interested to hear if anyone knows what RAJAR’s error and repeatability rates percentages are, even with a panel of 100,000?" - yeah, I ask this from time to time. It differs a lot based on different stations - the margin of error for a small station is higher than that for a larger one with more diaries, of course. I'm told that the margin of error is around 3%.</div><div><br></div><div>In terms of 'repeatability', <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://media.info/radio/stations/bbc-radio-2/listening-figures">http://media.info/radio/stations/bbc-radio-2/listening-figures</a> is a national RAJAR history since 1999, which - for weekly reach - looks pretty sane. <a rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="http://media.info/radio/stations/xfm/listening-figures">http://media.info/radio/stations/xfm/listening-figures</a> for London's Xfm shows rather more noise: mainly because 25-year old men are really hard to survey. Smaller survey areas like Radio Carmarthenshire's 120,000 area are normally done on a rolling yearly basis: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://media.info/radio/stations/971-radio-carmarthenshire/listening-figures">http://media.info/radio/stations/971-radio-carmarthenshire/listening-figures</a> looks relatively sane too.</div><div><br></div><div>So, after all of this - what is community radio's own estimate? I'd recommend joining the conversation on the article itself - <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://media.info/radio/data/community-radio-listening-figures-do-10-million-people-tune-in-every-week">http://media.info/radio/data/community-radio-listening-figures-do-10-million-people-tune-in-every-week</a> - the only comment so far is insinuating that your audience is even lower than my (quite generous, I thought) estimate.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br><br><br></div></div><br><div class="yiv952585232gmail_quote">On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 5:40:23 PM Alan Coote <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv952585232gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-GB"><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" name="msg-f:1490930392604674162__MailEndCompose" href=""><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Hi James,<u></u><u></u></span></a></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">It’s always good to see that something I mention turns into a Blog! </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">When I last spoke to RAJAR they acknowledged that about 40% of UK stations weren’t in the survey. This means ‘Other’ actually includes some commercial stations and not just community radio.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div
class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">The size of the survey is not important it’s the percentage error and repeatability. I would be interested to hear if anyone knows what RAJAR’s error and repeatability rates percentages are, even with a panel of 100,000?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">I suspect the reason BARB only surveys 8,000 homes is because the equipment registers which channel is tuned so they are able to get statistically accurate results with a much smaller panel.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">As a footnote, talking to Sky, I was told they get more accurate audience and demographic figures than BARB by using by AdSmart and Experian data and it’s in near realtime. <u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Kind Regards</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Alan<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow"
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lang="EN-GB"><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;"><br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Order<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB"><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">PS: I think the figure is about half a million. Here are my workings - <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://media.info/radio/data/community-radio-listening-figures-do-10-million-people-tune-in-every-week">http://media.info/radio/data/community-radio-listening-figures-do-10-million-people-tune-in-every-week</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 2:03:33 PM James Cridland <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:james@cridland.net" target="_blank"
href="mailto:james@cridland.net">james@cridland.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">Alex: >><span style="">I know at the Radio Acadamey a couple of years back RAJAR said they do measure all other stations, including Internet radio, but have you ever had any indication of just how they might manage to do that, and how reliable their figure is?<<</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">Respondents are asked to tick the "other radio" box when they are listening to "the radio" but it's a station that they don't have a sticker for - i.e. a station that isn't in RAJAR. On a national level, this figure is amazingly reliable, because it's a national sample size of over 100,000 adults - many times larger than TV's 8,000 household
number.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">Alan: >>I was working from memory on the 10 million (which I acknowledge is getting worse the older I get) A report was produced by Ofcom on Community Radio.<<<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">You said "Community radio reaches 10 million people a week". The radio industry uses "reach" as short-hand for "people who tune in", so I was slightly surprised at that figure, since it's so different from RAJAR.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"
style="line-height:14.85pt;">Here's the Ofcom report:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/broadcast/radio-ops/CR-AR-10-11.pdf">http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/broadcast/radio-ops/CR-AR-10-11.pdf</a><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">...and the actual line is paragraph 2.26, which reads... <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">>>Based on our computer modelling of population data and signal reception, we<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">estimate that close to 10.5 million adults (just over 12.5 million people in total)
are<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">able to receive a community radio station broadly aimed at them<<<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal" style="line-height:14.85pt;">So, "community radio reaches 10 million people a week" is factually untrue. Instead, "community radio could be received by about 10.5 million people a week" is correct. In fact, this 10.5m figure is the total possible reach that community radio could have if everyone who could pick up community radio did so.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 1:38:37 PM Alan Coote <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk" target="_blank"
href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm;"><div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" name="msg-f:1490930392604674162_msg-f:1490916751699115334_msg-f:14909151" href=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Hi James,</span></a><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">I was working from memory on the 10 million (which I acknowledge is getting worse the older I get) A report was produced by Ofcom on Community Radio.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div
class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">I accept the RAJAR figures as more resent. Although the principle of making any statistical sense of ‘Other’ is a bit like knowing how much Dark Matter there is in the Universe – we know there some but no one knows how much.</span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">The rest of the figures are available on the Web. </span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Kind Regards</span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Alan</span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Cridland<br><b>Sent:</b> 21 January 2015 12:49</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;"><br><b>To:</b> The Community Media Association Discussion
List</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;"> Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Order</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">><span style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d;"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Given community radio reaches 10 million people a week</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">Do you have a source for this, Alan?</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">RAJAR's "other radio" line, which should contain all non-subscribers to RAJAR, says 3.8m/week, of which community radio would be alongside pirate, internet and "not radio but calls itself radio".</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">//j</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div><div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 12:20:12 PM Phil Edmonds <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lists@philedmonds.info" target="_blank"
href="mailto:lists@philedmonds.info">lists@philedmonds.info</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv952585232MsoNormal">The main two points to summarise the many dozens of messages that have<br>been coming back and forth over past few days:<br><br>1 - To run a community radio station top of the list needs to be a paid<br>'Station Manager' of some description.<br><br>2 - Most community radio stations are so strapped for cash that this is<br>difficult to achieve. A significant majority have an hard time covering<br>'core costs' never mind any development work.<br><br><br>So what in my view what does "the announcement" need to address? All<br>links to my overarching issue "financing the sector".<br><br>1 - Licence renewal process.<br>We're now only months away from the "first batch" of stations current<br>licences expiring with no renewal process in place. What chance has any<br>one got of getting anywhere near a sustainable business plan if
they<br>don't know if they'll still have a licence?<br><br><br>2 - Removal of on-air advertising restrictions for stations overlapping<br>small commercial radio stations.<br>The turnover of a community radio station is so small as to have no<br>meaningful impact on a "small commercial licence" holders business. A<br>decade down the road from the original ruling a commercial station's<br>real competitor on a local scale is Google and Facebook advertising. At<br>least a community radio station can help keep the money in the local<br>economy, not to some off-shore multi-national.<br><br><br>3 - Community Radio Fund.<br>Everyone thinks it's too small. If it's aim is to help towards core<br>costs or building sustainability in the sector it's clearly not working<br>as effectively as it could. Perhaps it would be better if a chunk of the<br>funds were just directed towards Ofcom to subsidise Community Radio<br>Ofcom licence fees? Even extending this to the
music licensing bodies -<br>sector wide blanket licences at zero cost to stations sounds good.<br><br><br>4 - 50% advertising and sponsorship rule.<br>I'd propose that this isn't as pressing a worry as some think. A<br>diversity of funding sources I think helps protect the qualities of a<br>community radio station. Once you've claimed for volunteer time, it's<br>actually a 66% rule in 'cash terms' - and possibly an even higher<br>percentage if you've any support "in kind" you can claim for on your<br>Ofcom return.<br><br><br>Phil.<br><br><br><br>On 20/01/2015 20:28, Canalside's The Thread wrote:<br>> Here’s a few Dom :- from Mr Wright in Bangingheadagainstwallshire<br>><br>> 1)Why have successive Governments and Ministers pandered to commercial<br>> radio whilst neglecting community radio ?<br>><br>> 2)Why have we still got restrictions after 12 years ?<br>><br>> 3)Have the requests that we have been asking for the last 6 years
been<br>> implemented ?<br>><br>> 4)On Thursday will you be making a speech telling us everything we<br>> already know ? or are there serious beneficial changes for us will<br>> bureaucracy and reporting be reduced ?<br>><br>> 5)Do you think that some Community Radio Stations deserve a gold clock<br>> for managing to stay afloat whilst still achieving their key commitments<br>> ? under the clouds of restrictions<br>><br>> 6)Will there be a little more money going in the Community Radio Pot ?<br>> as we have gotten the same amount that was in 10 years ago with more<br>> Stations on-air<br>><br>> 7)Re:- restrictions ….. if they do stay in some way shape or form how<br>> come 4 major on-air Stations have had to operate with NO ON-AIR<br>> Advertising at all and by the way you are not allowed to use the small<br>> ILR argument or the less than 150,000 argument as neither are
relevant<br>> and neither are true. The Stations are mainly part of bigger groups<br>> which lifts them above the 150,000 anyway<br>><br>> 8)Are we to start limbering up ready for the announcement (ie:- putting<br>> our deep heat on) as in are we going to have nice little smiles on our<br>> faces afterwards or is it going to be a damp squib ?<br>><br>> 9)Do you seriously think there will be a falling over of commercial<br>> Stations if restrictions are lifted ? because I don’t.<br>><br>> 10)How are things in the DCMS ?<br>><br>> 11)Would you like a cup of tea and a Hob Knob ?<br>><br>> 12)And finally … all the Stations who have done a wonderful job will<br>> they be given first bite of the cherry when / if extensions of licences<br>> are offered which by the way I also think should be the case …. If<br>> not, could you tell us why we shouldn’t then all pack up now and go
home ?<br>><br>> It’s a good job I’m not interviewing him, we’d get to about number 5 and<br>> then he’d walk out after 10 minutes<br>><br>> I think it sums things up to be honest when a Bill that has now turned<br>> up 4 years after it should have is now having only 15 minutes laid aside<br>> for discussion.<br>><br>> All tongue in cheek of course …. Ed’s a decent man I know, and Dom will<br>> do a good job<br>><br>> And well done to all the Community Radio fraternity<br>> by the way Dom, do you know roughly what is in<br>> the Bill or not. The reason I ask is because you will have to have some<br>> idea so that you know what you are asking him ….. if this is true, then<br>> my questions do not need to be asked as you will be on a ‘’’positive’’’<br>> footing ….. if you do not know what
is in the document, then sadly my<br>> questions are relevant and you good have an argument / debate situation<br>> on your hands. I like to think we have gone past that point now and that<br>> my questions are now consigned to the bin ….. apart from the Hon Knob J<br>><br>> Nick<br>><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> *From:*<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] *On Behalf Of *CMA-L<br>> *Sent:* 20 January 2015 17:34<br>> *To:* <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank"
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>> *Subject:* [cma-l] Community Radio Order<br>><br>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>> From: *Dom Chambers* <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk">chair@commedia.org.uk</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk">chair@commedia.org.uk</a>>><br>><br>> TO CMA members,<br>><br>> The Community Radio Order is due to be published on Thursday this week.<br>> I will be interviewing DCMS minister Ed Vaizey on Thursday morning.<br>> Time is limited to around 15 minutes for this. I will be conducting the<br>> interview on behalf of the CMA and welcome any questions you might like<br>> me to consider informing the interview. We will naturally focus on the<br>> content and implications of
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