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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Wonderful stuff Sir John. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Putting it all into lay-mans terms though,
what happened was this. Once upon a time there was a Community Radio Bill …. The
Bill was all nice a fluffy and had a Utopia outlook to it. Restrictions were
put in place because the ‘apparent’ Utopia would look after the Broadcasters.
(in other-words – we would have money gushing out of our ears from Grants and
Funding organisations) er ?? nope ! if the Community Radio
Station was 100% just community with not really much bearing on the Radio then
grants were possible (what is the point of the Radio though ?) If it was just
folk in general from the local Community doing Radio, then forget it …. There are
NO Grants for just Radio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Restrictions were put in place on groups
of people who actually needed help NOT restrictions. The apparent Utopia
continued as those in the Ivory Towers even after 12 months were told ‘’hey
guys, this ain’t working, can we have a re-think please ?’’ more
debacles were pointed out as we attended various AGM’s, Gatherings, Seminars,
Get-Togethers at different locations. You could spot all the Government people
and the DCMS people as they were the ones who were sat on the stage with their
fingers in their ears and a set of blinkers over their eyes, and they were the
ones who stood up and gave us a speech for an hour, telling us everything we
already knew, with then very little time for questions, although hats off to
them, they were very good at blowing smoke up peoples bottoms. In the gathering
at the end of the seminars we all congratulated ourselves on how well we had
done (and quite rightly so) BUT without help and soldiering on with a
system that was flawed back in 2005.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Off home we all went until the next time,
more e-mails to message boards, more discussions, nothing happening, hearing
the same old tired arguments going round and round and round, and we all DIDN’T
live happily ever after ………until, hopefully now. Too little too late ? or is
it ? I’m hoping not and even though folk may have this negative picture of
moi’ ….. I always live in hope, as people do sometimes wake up and smell the
coffee.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And the moral of the story ???
Never ever give up and don’t let blab la bla grinding down and all that jazz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There you go ………… lay-mans terms.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Neilm can hit his delete button again. The
problem we have had in this organisation over the past 12 years though is that
the truth hurts sometimes and folk duck and dive. Standing up and being counted
gets things done, not ducking. I take nothing back that I have said or written
and apologise for nothing either, what is right and correct will see through in
the end.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>SIR .scot<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 20 January 2015 20:26<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Question Re
Community Radio Order Interview.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Hello Dom,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<h2 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.1pt;
margin-left:0cm;line-height:16.35pt'><b><font size=2 color="#444444"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#444444'>Community
Radio Order.þ<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></h2>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Question: <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>‘Post the public consultation and the
unanimious conclusion that the ‘Ban on Advertising and Sponsorship’ should be
removed – why has the conclusion been ignored and Radio Broadcasters are
compelled to broadcast within the limitations of a “Comand Economy” controlled
by ‘The Nanny State’ when Westminster demands that we live in a “Free Economy”?.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>I am mindful of your interviewee, and
the probable response to any questions that they do not understand/have not
been briefed on. However, having been involved in radio for more years
than I can remember, I’m just a wee bit irked, by this pernicious and
protracted ‘Ban’.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>As I understand it, (I may, be
pleased to be corrected) said ‘ban’ was imposed on legitimate licence holders
to protect the viability of “ILR” – which is long dead and buried. Replaced by,
arguably “IR” (Independent Radio). Many licensed broadcasters brows would still
furrow up at this ‘Disguise’ as “IR”, on a large part, has been consumed by
large corporations, both on and off shore. Which was not really, the ambition
of “ILR” .<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>The earliest ambitions (that are
still fresh in my mind) of the then IBA was to appease and plicate disgruntled
and disenfranchised broadcasters by offering them an opportunity, not to be
naughty and apply for an “Incremental” or “Community radio Licence” with the
alledge temporary ban on Sponsorship and Advertising so as not to undermine the
existing “ILR” network.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Good times came and went. Many “ILR”
station owners made their wad. Then times got tough and they sold up to the
highest bidder on or off shore. (Including “Incremental and Community Radio
Stations became the property of multinationals). As these “Incremental” and CR
stations are now only, merely and do nothing other than ‘Relay’ another “IR”
stations output, which of course includes “Sponsorship and Advertising” i.e.
IR’s and CR’s are already circumventing the Ban, and the time for “ILR” – “to
become established and stand on it’s own two feet” has long since passed. It
seems to me at least that this inappropriate and pernicious Ban must be removed
forthwith – if only to maintain the credibility of the broadcasting regulatory
authorities?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>We are poised, if not in the midst of
“The Digital Switch Over”?...<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Allegedly, “IR” et al are going to
‘Let Go’ of their FM/AM frequencies and render, some of them to “Local Radio
Stations” – AM frequencies at lest?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>The question here then, is
‘Will these new local AM stations be ‘Banned’ from Sponsorship and Advertising
too’?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:city u2:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><b><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Westminster</span></font></b></st1:City></st1:city><b><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>, who control OfCom (who
took over the role of the IBA), who in turn control/licence <st1:country-region u2:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region>
broadcasting, really need to start to accept that the proposed widening of broadcasting
requires to be ‘Funded Fairly’.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:city u2:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><b><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Westminster</span></font></b></st1:City></st1:city><b><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>, is determined that we
live in a “Free Market Economy” i.e. “The Market” (Buyers and Sellers) should
dictate the “Market” and not “The <st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:placename u2:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Granny</st1:placename></st1:PlaceName> <st1:placetype u2:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">State</st1:placetype></st1:place></st1:PlaceType></st1:place>”.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>If, Westminster, via OfCom – decrees,
that CR and the new “Local AM” stations must become established, produce
acceptable broadcasting that people want to listen too - of a standard that
complies with OfCom licence stipulations, there Must be a realisation and
acceptance that ‘Broadcasting exists within a Free Market’ and not the
opposite: a ‘Command Economy’ which is controlled and governed by the whims of
government - that affords some parts of a market privileges that it Bans other
parts of the market from having? <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Regards.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>John Morrison.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>SIR.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>From: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 17:34:25 +0000<br>
To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Subject: [cma-l] Community Radio Order<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>---------- Forwarded message
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From: <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Dom Chambers</span></b> <<a
href="mailto:chair@commedia.org.uk">chair@commedia.org.uk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>TO CMA members,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>The Community Radio Order is due to be published on
Thursday this week. I will be interviewing DCMS minister Ed Vaizey on
Thursday morning. Time is limited to around 15 minutes for this. I will be
conducting the interview on behalf of the CMA and welcome any questions you
might like me to consider informing the interview. We will naturally focus on
the content and implications of the CRO but this will be an opportunity to also
ask about other areas of community media development.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Best to all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:#3366FF'><img border=0
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alt="Dom 1"></span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=4 color="#7030a0" face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#7030A0;font-weight:bold'>Dom
Chambers</span></font></b><font color="#00a0df" face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-family:Arial;color:#00A0DF'><br>
</span></font><b><font color="#7f7f7f" face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-family:Arial;color:#7F7F7F;font-weight:bold'>Chair</span></font></b><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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