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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Station Manager conversation is always
a corker I reckon. Station Managers in Community Radio are NOT really like
Managers in other businesses …. We tend to be more of General Dogs Bodies
and Gophers …………. Has anyone else experienced this ??
when we set out on this venture in 2004 I was prepared to do whatever was
needed to get the project up and running and then tootling along. I aimed at
doing about 20 hours a week and receiving nothing but a few expenses. The 20
hours then became 25 and then very quickly became 35 and then 40. A slight
re-think was needed and it was decided that I was to receive a little tickle
£££ or 2 ……….. obviously, at 40 hours one or two of the other
thing that I do had to be pushed slightly to one side (ie my job) ……..
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In 2007 just before launching full-time we
needed another serious re-think as without realising it I was now doing 50
hours ! obviously the great question appeared from nowhere
which was ‘’a good Manager delegates’’ …. All well
and good,if, you have folk around you to delegate to. We had lots of
volunteers, but they were merely doing the shows and then goodnight <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vienna</st1:place></st1:City> see ya next week.
You end up with the same five running the whole process, and therefore they are
the five who receive a little tickle £££ the situation in a roundabout way
answered itself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are there any other Stations who are where
they are today of course through deliberate actions but also and element of
fate and luck and basic HARD GRAFT from a few people. Those people may also
define their job description as General Dogs Bodies and Gophers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I say all of this without being derogatory
to anyone ……………. My hours are now averaging at 70
whilst receiving Part-Time pay. I’m not complaining, I am merely making a
point and giving you all the facts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I reckon others are in the same Boat ……..if
they ain’t, then we’re doing something wrong. But alas, we’ve
been running for 12 years next year ! we must surely be doing something right
and our / my approach as you can see is most definitely not Blue Chip big
Management, it’s hard graft on the treadmill. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Two Lochs Radio<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 January 2015 12:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">The
Community Media Association Discussion List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] imaging and
the announcement</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>It looks like the first sentence of my posting got
chopped off (perhaps I deserve a beheading!). It should have started:</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>"Sorry if I've missed Ian's point, I just couldn't
see how items 1-3 should have higher priority than item 4, since implementing
them would be part of the Station Manager's responsibility. "</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>As you say Pippa, viability has to be proved from the
outset, in fact beforehand, but I would say the main need to do so is
not for the funders nor Ofcom, but to prove to yourselves there is any point
pursuing the venture at all.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Any team setting out on this road has to decide how much
compromise they can make in the early days to get started with the funding they
can achieve, butof course that can be slightly chicken-amnd-egg. One of the
toughest decisions is whether to 'go for broke' and plan everything to have
full funding and high-standard facilities from the outset, and try to find big
funders, or to start 'on a shoestring' with cobbled together gear and try to
work upwards from that. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I would say that at either extreme, one thing that can't
be foregone is a paid station manager (not necessarily full-time) - but then
I'm a station manager, so I would say that! Seriously, my observation is that
any micro-scale station, needs at least one person, preferably a
pair, with both personal and formal commitment to making sure
things work and develop. Ironically, the bigger the station, probably the less
important a station manager is to its success, but still a person with drive
and commitment in the lead will make all the difference.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>The other things I would say should not be compromised,
even on the shoestring, are the ability to maintain a proper technical quality
and reliability of transmission and programming, and of course the ability to
comply with all Ofcom requiements (eg totally reliable logging of output). If a
financially viable shoestring solution can't be found to meet these minimum
needs, then I would say the whole scheme may not be something that
can sensibly be pursued.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Sadly we've now seen two Scottish Highlands and Islands CR
licencees hand back their licences after a few years of failing to get on
air at all, because in each case after legnthy internal debate the
groups decided that if they couldn't raise the funds to 'do the job
properly' from the outset, then they wouldn't do it at all. One was in a
thriving, densley populated town, the other on a lightly populated moutainous
island. Right decisions? Who knows? At least they may have saved themselves
years of tough struggle on something that was eventually going to prove
non-viable in the long term anyway.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Alex</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" title="tlr@gairloch.co.uk">Two Lochs Radio</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:pippa@curlyradio.com" title="pippa@curlyradio.com">pippa</a> ; <a
href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" title="transplanfm@hotmail.com">Ian
Hickling</a> ; <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"
title="cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">The Community Media Association Discussion
List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Saturday, January
17, 2015 2:34 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [cma-l]
imaging and the announcement<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>would be part of the Station Manager's
responsibility. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Yes, I'd expect the station manager to do an awful lot
more of course - it wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list of a Station
Manager's responsibilities... has anyone ever got to the end of that list? One
of the problems is that generally the smaller the station, the wider the range
of the SM's direct responsibilities (but usually the lower the pay!).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>As for news, in our case we see local news as
an absolutely key part of our local broadcasting - a key differentiator
for us against any other radio service available in our area, and one of the
main reasons for a sizeable proportion of our audience to tune in (chances are
quite a few tune in for the local news and weather and then leave us again!).
Producing it is probably our heaviest daily burden however - it is time
consuming and tedious to produce, day-in, day-out. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>For national news in daytime hours we get a 2-3 minute
hourly bulletin from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:place></st1:City>.
IRN/Sky News would sound completely wrong for us in the north-west of <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Scotland</st1:country-region>, but the '<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Glasgow</st1:place></st1:City> and the West Coast' bulletin of
national and international news that we get fits in just fine. During
peak hours we follow the national bulletin with our local news and weather.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Alex</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:pippa@curlyradio.com" title="pippa@curlyradio.com">pippa</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" title="tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>
; <a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" title="transplanfm@hotmail.com">Ian
Hickling</a> ; <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"
title="cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">The Community Media Association
Discussion List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Saturday, January
17, 2015 11:39 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [cma-l]
imaging and the announcement<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Absolutely Alex! Once you are established, great. However it's
difficult at start-up level though because you need to prove to funders
(whether commercial or 3rd sector) that you are viable before they will stump
up the cash. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What else would you expect a paid Station Manager to do? For me,
getting out and networking is a must. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Incidentally, I'd love to know how colleagues handle news coverage. Do
you take a national service? Follow it up with local news snd weather? Or
is everything done in house? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Loving these conversations! Together we are stronger!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</st1:PersonName> <br>
Date: 17/01/2015 11:10 (GMT+00:00) <br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">pippa</st1:PersonName>@curlyradio.com,Ian
Hickling <transplanfm@hotmail.com>,<st1:PersonName w:st="on">The
Community Media Association Discussion List</st1:PersonName>
<cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk> <br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] imaging and the announcement <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>But if you put your number 4 as number 1 instead, all the rest should
then be taken care of! :-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 16 January 2015 at
21:09 Ian Hickling <transplanfm@hotmail.com> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>After having built over 40 stations but not actually ever had the
pleasure of running one for more than 28 days, I'd prioritise in a different
order: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Professional imaging – so you sound to
your audience like a proper radio. </span></font> <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>A superb website featuring a listen again
service and links with social media</span></font> <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Make your ads in house by all means, but make
very sure they sound professional.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>A full time paid Station Manager who runs the
business professionally and effectively.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Think carefully about News - go for local - don't
bother with national. <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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