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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don&#8217;t think I was actually
complaining as such &#8230; if we can have it for an ickle-ish tickle-ish      
(a little tickle ££)   then fine, we&#8217;ll give it a go. I&#8217;m more
interested in the timeline as to how we arrive at our discussions and a bit of
the Politics, because after all it is that which determines whether we can
afford things or not. No use if something is fandabby-dozy, all singing all
dancing and expensive &#8230; the conversations are completely pointless. For
example, I might look at a four day trip to <st1:State w:st="on">Berlin</st1:State>
or <st1:City w:st="on">Oslo</st1:City> or <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Amsterdam</st1:place></st1:City>
which I have done because I fancied it and COULD AFFORD IT &#8230;. I ain&#8217;t
even going to bother looking at a World Cruise. However, if my funds get better
&#8230; work / savings etc then I might.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We need more chances to raise funding &#8230;..
it ain&#8217;t happening as we still have restrictions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think we are heading for a tricky
situation &#8230; as more Stations come on-board the fund dries up, grants a
becoming less and less and yet we still have a 50% rule &#8230;. Many will be
in breach I reckon .. in other-words, getting told off and they haven&#8217;t
actually done anything wrong. I apologise to everyone now for mentioning it yet
again, but the word &#8216;debacle&#8217; springs to mind.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;m convinced we could be in a
pickle come next year as we have virtually given up on grants &#8230; I have
got better things to do with my life than waste my time filling forms in. I
reckon over ten years if you run hour by hour I&#8217;m up to 4 months solid
(at least) filling forms in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Let&#8217;s see what prices the lads come
up with   </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
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color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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<st1:PersonName w:st="on">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Artisan Broadcast<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 03 December 2014 11:15<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">The
 Community Media Association Discussion List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Raspberries,
Steroids and Low Cost DAB</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As well as for now.&nbsp;
I never felt, during the demo or in any of the follow-up, that this was a means
to replace FM.&nbsp; So I don't think we should get bogged down in that
here.&nbsp; Let's look at this for what it is ... an opportunity to trial an
accessible form of digital radio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>5-6 years you only had
the option to spend £12,000 to £20,000 in your first year to get your single
station on DAB.&nbsp; This smaller scale version is only going to cost a
fraction of that per service (up to six of course).&nbsp; Don't knock it until
we've 'trialled' it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt'>Cat<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'>--&nbsp;<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Catherine</span></b></st1:PlaceName><b><span
 style='font-weight:bold'> <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Lake</st1:PlaceName></span></b></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'>Consultant Engineer<br
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=3 color="#222222" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222;font-style:italic'>Digital
Media &amp; Infrastructure</span></font></i><font color="#222222" face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:#222222'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#222222'><a
href="http://www.artisanbroadcast.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.artisanbroadcast.uk/</a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 3 December 2014 at 09:00, Canalside's The Thread &lt;<a
href="mailto:office@thethread.org.uk" target="_blank">office@thethread.org.uk</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Sorry everyone for a rather Numpty-ish question, but if all this
goes well and &#8216;&#8217;&#8217;within&#8217;&#8217; a Community Radio
Budget are saying this would be an &#8216;&#8217;&#8217;<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
 w:st="on">AS-WELL</st1:City> <st1:State w:st="on">AS</st1:State></st1:place>&#8217;&#8217;&#8217;
or an &#8216;&#8217;&#8217;INSTEAD OF&#8217;&#8217;&nbsp;&nbsp; ie:- either /
or ???</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I don&#8217;t see any benefit at all if you have to switch off FM
and go just DAB &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.just so folk
don&#8217;t get selective memory loss I would like to point out that the DAB
discussion started about 5 &#8211; 6 years ago with the original suggestion of
&#8216;shifting&#8217; all the Big Stations over, thus leaving FM for Community
Radio, which of course would mean a heck of a lot of Community Radio.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Obviously the discussion has gone off on lots of different routes
since. Nowt wrong with that may I say &#8230; not complaining, just making a
point</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>All the best everyone</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Nick</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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