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<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>HANG
ON A MO EVERYONE !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>This
did NOT happen in our case. I remember being in conversation with Ofcom and receiving
correspondence from the outset about what our (let’s use the word) ‘clash’
might be with silk fm. As far as whinging and blubbering goes on a scale of 1 –
10, they (silk) certain were up there with the diddums-dooo brigade at 9/10<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The
fact that there were ‘restrictions’ ie:- in this area 116,000
potential audience below the 150,000 middle rate on the original categories A,
B and C I believe put you slightly on the back foot before you start.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>C
/ meant don’t even bother applying as the Commercial Station was
operating in an area of less than 50,000<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>B
/ meant yes, but you will have major advertising restrictions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>A
/ meant <> OK, there will be some restrictions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>IAN
WRITES :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Community
Radio - You choose the area and Ofcom will try to fit you in if spectrum
is available – if they can’t guarantee 25W ERP = 5Km with no
adjacent or co-channel interference they won’t license it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The
key point I make is that regardless what anyone says, I know the timeline, the
discussions and the end result. We are NOT technically licensed for
Macclesfield. We just touch the Northern tip (officially) we are licensed
for Bollington / Prestbury / Pott Shrigley / Kerridge / Adlington /
Tytherington this is fine, providing your service primarily serves
Sheep, Cows, Foxes, Buzzards, Hedgehogs, Badgers, Trees and Hedgerows ……..
we wanted to licence for Macclesfield and then all the other areas would fall
under the Umbrella. We would not have got the license for Macclesfield as the
whinging and blubbering from silk was (in our opinion) tilting the discussion
towards the NO ! nudge nudge hush hush wink wink we were tipped off that
not including Macclesfield would work favourable to being awarded the licence
at our SECOND (2<sup>nd</sup>) attempt. Alas it rang true, and we are very
grateful of that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>It
is all a contradiction though, as £££ sustainability often gets lobbed into the
mix, and yet :- 1) we have advertising restrictions 2) we have
transmitters of 25 watts which quite frankly you could fire a pea-shooter
further 3) they don’t let you set up where you NEED £££ to set up due
to politics.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>But
like I say, the rules have now changed. I/We didn’t re-write the rule
book, Ofcom did, and they did it ‘’’in favour’’’
and ‘’’for the benefit of’’’ silk / the
commercial boys <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>So
:- this means that by rights for the sake of 4 miles we ought to be permitted
now to go back to Plan A and get the licensed tweaked and changed for OUR
benefit to Macclesfield and surrounding areas. What about after 12 years having
a few things done that SUIT OUR NEEDS as opposed to pandering to the
commercials and the BBC ….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>How
come ? well, one reason is so the argument of ‘’you’re
not licensed for’’ gets taken immediately out of the equation, we
can then sit down and have a grown up and sensible conversation about coverage,
technical issues and number crunching as opposed to being bogged down with the
Politics of it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The
point I make is that ‘Politics’ get thrown into the mix by the
likes of the DCMS because it is the easy opt-out / cop-out and not because it
is the right thing to do.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
seriously do think the time has come for our fraternity to start coming together
and having a one voice attack on some of the nonsense. There are lots of
Stations who could receive a little tweak to make their service better and more
sustainable without it affecting frequency interference or commercial Stations.
Then again, why worry about them, they don’t give a flying cactus about
us and never have.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>These
are the facts ladies and gentlemen, this isn’t a dream or a fiction
story, this actually happened, it was a reality and still is. We deal with and
live with it everyday. Real Radio nibbling and pecking at us because we ain’t
slightly high enough and we ain’t near enough to Macc. I truly believe if
we had written MACCLESFIELD on our application we would have been knocked back.
Not because of our inability to deliver but because of silk ….. this can
never be acceptable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Silk
are now a Cheshire Station NOT a Macclesfield Station, they still play the all
things to all men though. I don’t mind that as long as we are allowed to
play the game as well. We’ll av a piece of the cake thank you !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='margin-left:0cm'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Coote<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 29 September 2014 12:58<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Extending
Community Radio on FM</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Ian
we are essentially saying the same thing… again!</span></font></a><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The Ad-hoc I mention
refers to the licensing of CR stations. As you know they have a very different
starting point from commercial stations i.e.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Symbol><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Community
Radio - You choose the area and Ofcom will try to fit you in if spectrum
is available – if they can’t guarantee 25W ERP = 5Km with no
adjacent or co-channel interference they won’t license it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Symbol><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Symbol;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Commercial
Radio - Ofcom find spectrum and then advertise it. Technically they are
underwriting that the station will reach a given audience.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I maintain that
changing the way Ofcom think about FM is a waste of time and effort. Its best
to concentrate on DAB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>PS I found Robert
Tyler’s contribution excellent and very informative – thank you. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/"><font size=2
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Hear Alan Every
Week on Let’s Talk Business The UK’s Premier Radio Programme For
Current and Future Entrepreneurs - Now Broadcast To 4.3 Million People </span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Email - </span></font><a
href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk"><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Phone - 0800 949
6655<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Ian Hickling [mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 27 September 2014 17:19<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> alan.coote@5digital.co.uk;
info@a-bc.co.uk; cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Extending Community Radio
on FM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Alan - I don't recognise most of the scenario you describe
here as being the UK Regulation system that we're working in today.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Protection Ratios set up by IBA and RA were adopted by the
ITU 50 years ago and are unlikely to change?<br>
Not really indicative of any positive progress then.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>In my experience Ofcom doesn't do much on an "ad
hoc" basis - quite the opposite.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Commercial operators and indeed all licensed broadcasters
are more than adequately protected in technical terms and all expect signal
corruption on occasions when it's caused by unavoidable atmospheric conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Enhancement of coverage by any broadcaster is not easy -
and is approached by Ofcom on a low-priority and individual merit basis -
unless of course pressure is brought to bear.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I would think we can all quote examples of that apparently
happening.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Commercial stations had power and frequency allocated in
exactly the same was as is used for Community Radio - desired coverage against
regional spectral occupancy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Standalone or mini-mux DAB is a long way off and should
not be offered as an excuse for not dealing with the present and very real need
for a seed-change in spectrum manipulation for best efficiency.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>There are scores of local stations out there which are
ready to go on air and around half of them will be refused for what appear to
be insecure and what we are told are incontestable reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>This is not the form of Democracy that we should expect from
a UK Government and its Agencies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>From: <a
href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>;
<a href="mailto:info@a-bc.co.uk">info@a-bc.co.uk</a><br>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:06:28 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Community Radio on AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The FM protection
ratios were set up using a specs’ based on the selectivity and
sensitivity of radios in the 60s. The IBA, Radio Authority and Ofcom planned
licences based on their analysis of available frequencies using this
spec’. It became an ITU standard so is very unlikely to change.
</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Fitting new stations
on an ad-hoc basis has the danger of commercial operators being disadvantaged
through interference, however occasional. </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Picking up
Nick’s point about Silk FM getting more power, this has happened numerous
times around the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
It’s because commercial stations are licenced to use a preallocated and
cleared frequency by Ofcom. Should a licenced station make a case that either
Ofcom’s analysis was wrong, or over time the area has changed, then Ofcom
will need to reflect that by permitting changes to the coverage.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>This is of course a
totally different scenario from the way community stations start life.
</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>At the end of the
day Ofcom is full of people whose job it is to run things by the rules. There
is absolutely no advantage to them doing otherwise. </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>In my view a better
baton to wave is for access to DAB via standalone stations – here the
rules aren’t even set.
</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alan</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/"
target="_blank"><font size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hear Alan Every
Week on Let’s Talk Business The UK’s Premier Radio Programme For
Current and Future Entrepreneurs - Now Broadcast To 4.3 Million People </span></font></a></span></font><font
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Email - </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><a
href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk"><font size=2><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Phone - 0800 949
6655</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
[<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 25 September 2014 08:23<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> The Community Media
Association Discussion List; Associated Broadcast Consultants<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Community Radio
on AM</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I don't agree that ".....proper computerised tools
are needed to do it properly" Glyn - sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Computerised tools have got us into the farce that we are
currently in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Certainly we need proper planning - but after that we need
practical onsite trials as you say with measurement and analysis.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>This however is costly in terms of the equipment and
manpower which Ofcom does not have available and is not going to get funded by
HMG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>So Ofcom <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>could</span></b>
do it but won't.<br>
Lots of us <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>can</span></b> do it - but Ofcom
doesn't accept that concept.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>From: <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:info@a-bc.co.uk">info@a-bc.co.uk</a><br>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:11:01 +0100<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Community Radio on AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I understand the 'complex scientific' side of it, but I
still don't honestly see how the map helps give any insight other than in the
crudest measure of overall density of stations. </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>It shows the general density of stations and is a nice tool
for browsing stations and frequencies, but it gives no visual representation
whatever of frequencies or powers, so I don't honestly see how it gives even
the vaguest insight into the interference landscape for a station.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>It could maybe take useful steps in that
direction with some development. For example if one could select a frequency or
transmitter of interest and set a filter to show only stations of that
frequency, or of that frequency plus adjacent and/or image channels it would
start to give an idea of potential for interference. Combined with perhaps a
crude free space range indication using semi-transparent overlays based on
on powers and direction templayes it might beging to give a rough feel for the
interference landscape for a given station. But as it stands I don't see how it
does that in the slightest.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Not meaning to be picky, honest - I like it for what
it is, and it does give a feel for the geographic distribution of CR stations,
but it doesn't seem to me to offer any useful insight or even vague feel
for the interference landscape.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'><br>
Alex</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:info@a-bc.co.uk" title="info@a-bc.co.uk">Associated Broadcast
Consultants</a> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" title="tlr@gairloch.co.uk">Two Lochs Radio</a>
</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk"
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
September 24, 2014 5:37 PM</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [cma-l]
Community Radio on AM</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Absolutely right Alex - the frequency selective map would
only be for getting an "insight" or feel for the interference
landscape - proper computerised tools are needed to do it properly. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>It's complex and scientific, but this post below gives a
pictorial, non-technical insight into the "Protection Ratios" that
Ofcom use, and are one of the reasons they often say there are no frequencies
available:-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><a
href="http://a-bc.co.uk/ofcom-fmvhf-protection-ratios-illustrated/"
target="_blank">http://a-bc.co.uk/ofcom-fmvhf-protection-ratios-illustrated/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Glyn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>-- <br>
Glyn Roylance - Principal Consultant <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'><a href="http://www.a-bc.co.uk/" target="_blank">Associated
Broadcast Consultants</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>On 24 September 2014 16:58, Two Lochs Radio <<a
href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk" target="_blank">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Hi Glynn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>That's a nice map for browsing, but as far as mapping all
transmitters to allow assessment of potential interference, it surely
isn't the way to go. As you'll be well aware you need much more than a
simple mapping of potential co-channels - you have to take into account
image channels and the directional power templates of antennas at the very
least, even before thinking about the intervening terrain. You also have to
take into account transmissions in neighbouring countries of course.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>I think all that can be done far more effectively in
tabular form than on a map.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Of course, the elephant in this particular room is
not in any case what frequencies are or aren't occupied, but what
parameters Ofcom applies in assessing their potential for mutual interference -
eg should a 99% confidence level or a 90% confidence level be used, should
second adjacent channel be regarded as safe or not? Those are what make
all the difference to the assumed potential for interference between
transmitters. Similarly, is potential interference acceptable for 0.1% or 1% of
the time or location? All these parameters are really what set the
technical bar as to whether or not there are channels available.
Then of course there are strategic and political issues, agrements for the BBC
to have priority use of certain sub-bands etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>One thing that could be considered for releasing more
community radio frequencies is for Ofcom to reuse channels more closely on
the basis of a mutual agreement between stations that they will not complain
about the remote possibility of mutual interference less than say 1% of the
time in 10% of their fringe. We have transmitters on the same frequencies just
a few miles apart, but terrain-limited with no significant mutual interference
in locations of interest, because we were able to agree not to complain about
our transmitters interfering with each other! A similar thing happens on
96.6 between Nevis Radio (<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Fort</st1:PlaceType>
<st1:PlaceName w:st="on">William</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>) and MFR
(Aviemore) in the Laggan area half way between them. I suspect many groups
would be willing to accept a service that might be subject to a little marginal
interference in some limited locations rather thna no licence at all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>As for suggestions on the map, which is nonetheless nice
to have, could I suggest you add in the Scottish not-for-profit
stations that operate as non-profit community stations, but for historical
reasons have commercial licences (Cuillin FM, Two Lochs Radio, Lochbroom FM,
Argyll FM, Oban FM, Isles FM). That would give a more representative picture of
community radio cover in the northwest of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>, which otherwise looks a bit
empty on the map! There are also community op-outs from MFR in the north-east.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Also for adding the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Northern Ireland</st1:place></st1:country-region> stations there is
a batch convertor for Irish grid references here <a
href="http://www.osi.ie/calculators/batch.asp?alias=/services/gps-services/co-ordinate-converter"
target="_blank">http://www.osi.ie/calculators/batch.asp?alias=/services/gps-services/co-ordinate-converter</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:info@a-bc.co.uk" target="_blank" title="info@a-bc.co.uk">Associated
Broadcast Consultants</a> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank"
title="cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">The Community Media Association
Discussion List</a> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Wednesday,
September 24, 2014 2:54 PM</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [cma-l]
Community Radio on AM</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Further to Ian's update below - we recently mapped the
Ofcom data for FM CR's onto an interactive Google Map that you can browse, zoom
etc. If you click on any site if gives the essential information. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><a href="http://a-bc.co.uk/community-radio-station-map/"
target="_blank">http://a-bc.co.uk/community-radio-station-map/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>If there is interest we might do a similar map for all <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> transmitters
(nearly 2000 of them) that you can filter by frequency - thus to get an insight
into co-channel interference for any station/location/frequency you wish.
Or other variations if people have suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Regards, Glyn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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