<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>&nbsp;I think lower power stations should be allowed greater field strength, especially in highly urbanised areas. As we know, the signal at car aerial hight is subject to significant attenuation because of buildings. This often means a loss of actual practical coverage well within the TSA. Any city or large town CR station will testify to that.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>This won't affect the area of protection too much as the signal tails off according to the inverse square law.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>But better to first have good coverage for existing stations me thinks!</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div><div><br>On 8 Jun 2014, at 18:37, Tony Bailey &lt;<a href="mailto:studio@ravensoundradio.co.uk">studio@ravensoundradio.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A few observations:<br>
      <br>
      ABC article: It's obvious from the 103.4 list that there are two
      stations running a kilowatt and one 7.5 kW so the channel is well
      clogged before you've tried to fit any more in.&nbsp; The reuse
      distance at those power levels is probably 100+ miles.&nbsp; <br>
      <br>
      Band Re-plan:&nbsp; There was a lot of paperwork generated by the
      107-108 proposal, which would have given very local radio a leg
      up, needless to say it was "sallied".&nbsp; You could try suggesting
      that this should be cleared out although I doubt if anyone will
      listen.<br>
      <br>
      Review approaches by other regulators:&nbsp; Try the FCC who have made
      use of low power channels since AM radio.&nbsp; They also allow input
      from consultants!<br>
      <br>
      Regards,&nbsp; Tony Bailey<br>
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      <br>
      On 07/06/14 14:57, Associated Broadcast Consultants wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Don't disagree Ian, but what to do about it?
        &nbsp;Despite what some others may think, Ofcom are a rational entity
        that makes decisions based upon fact and science (if they didn't
        they would be accused of wasting taxpayers money). &nbsp;Thus they
        are extremely unlikely to ignore what the ITU says in its
        recommendations of FM/VHF protection ratios. (I'm not saying you
        are saying they should do this either)
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        <div>In<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://a-bc.co.uk/ofcom-fmvhf-protection-ratios-illustrated/">
            this post on our blog</a> we give a non-technical treatment
          of the subject of co-channel protection ratios that some other
          readers may be interested in despite the rather teccie sound
          to it . &nbsp;It contains some pictures that clearly show the
          dramatic impact of the protection ratios that Ofcom consider
          when doing their spectrum planning.</div>
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        <div>Perhaps more importantly, we also give some potential,
          pragmatic solutions to the issue.</div>
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        <div>Regards, Glyn</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">--&nbsp;<br>
          Glyn Roylance - Principal Consultant
          <div>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.a-bc.co.uk/" target="_blank">Associated Broadcast Consultants</a></div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 5 June 2014 13:44, Ian Hickling <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">In anticipation of coverage of this
                  subject in the Conference on the 14th I have today
                  written to the relevant Officer of Ofcom as follows:
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white">
                      <i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">There
                          appears to be a widespread
                          assertion by Ofcom that there are either no or
                          very few FM frequencies
                          available in&nbsp;a number of areas for potential
                          Community Radio stations.</span></i><i style="font-size:12pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">We have been
                          contacted by potential Applicants in
                          several of these areas and as part of our
                          normal service we have carried out
                          scans of spectral occupancy at locations where
                          the
                          Applicant's&nbsp;transmitter&nbsp;is planned to be
                          located.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">In every case we
                          have found a number of unoccupied
                          channels which would be suitable for a
                          low-power service, even when taking into
                          account Ofcom's current stringent protection
                          factors.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">It is we suggest
                          unacceptable for Ofcom to state
                          that out of a total of 204 possible FM
                          channels in for example an area
                          receiving 9 major radio services and another
                          21 usable broadcasts, that at
                          least 1 of the 24 frequencies we have
                          identified is completely impossible to
                          press into use for a local 50W transmitter.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">We do however
                          accept that it would be completely
                          unreal for Ofcom to carry out an on-site scan
                          for available frequencies in
                          every possible UK location - or to do so on
                          receipt of every CR Application;
                          but we suggest that it is equally unreal for
                          Ofcom to issue blanket denials of
                          capacity over such&nbsp;generalised&nbsp;wide areas.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Another point here
                          is that for Ofcom to suggest
                          that AM is a feasible alternative to FM for
                          Community Radio in the UK is from
                          every&nbsp;conceivable practical&nbsp;viewpoint
                          somewhere between misguided and
                          a serious deception.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">In attempting to
                          facilitate &nbsp;as many&nbsp;Community&nbsp;Radio stations
                          as
                          possible - not just because
                          it&nbsp;produces&nbsp;revenue for our business -
                          but because it goes towards fulfilling a clear
                          and laudable Government
                          initiative - we are carrying out a realistic
                          on-site occupancy scan for every
                          potential CR Applicant who contacts us.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">I trust that Ofcom
                          will&nbsp;conscientiously&nbsp;receive and analyse each
                          one of these in good
                          faith and with an open mind as part of its
                          Statutory Duty, regardless of
                          any&nbsp;perceived&nbsp;time or manpower considerations.</span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
                        </span></i></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt"><font face="Calibri">Your
                          comments would be appreciated.</font></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white">
                      <span style="font-size:12pt"><font face="Calibri">Many
                          thanks</font></span></p>
                    <span class=""><font color="#888888">
                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.2pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:12pt"><font face="Calibri">Ian
                              Hickling</font></span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span></i></p>
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