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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I hadn’t but thanks for the update. Somewhat predictable I think. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is the same bunch that are advocating moving to DAB to vacate FM as soon as possible thereby leaving room for more commercial and community stations to compete with them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the point made about local TV is very valid – to which I’d add local TV owners are allowed to own more than one station, thereby getting economies of scale. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So all the very significant mistakes in the CR legislation have been ironed out for local TV!   <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan Coote<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>5 Digital Limited<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hear Alan Every Week on Let’s Talk Business The UK’s Premier Radio Programme For Current and Future Entrepreneurs - Now Broadcast To 4 Million People </span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tlr@gairloch.co.uk [mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 April 2014 19:54<br><b>To:</b> Alan Coote; 'Richard Hilton'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] DCMS Consultation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alan <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Have you read the Radiocentre's response on behalf of the commercial sector. They are proposing exactly what you don't want - no relaxation of the the advertising limits, but increased public funding, along with more stringent adherence by stations to regulatory compliance and delivery of social gain objectives. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alex <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 15 April 2014 at 16:32 Alan Coote &lt;<a href="mailto:alan.coote@5digital.co.uk">alan.coote@5digital.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Your figures below demonstrate a false picture; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Think about it, they are taken from the annual reports in which it is impossible (because the spreadsheet prevents it) to make a return which shows On-air income &nbsp;above 50%! On prior occasions when it was less easy to return a legally &nbsp;correct form, you’d get a gentle reminder from Ofcom to ‘Correct the Mistakes’ in the return. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’d wager, after the 50% restriction is removed so station manager no longer have to juggle income, a truer picture of Community Radio’s health will be apparent. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also, putting my involvement in community radio to one side, as a tax payer I be very annoyed for government to use my money to support stations which could very well&nbsp; be self-sufficient if the rules allowed. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan Coote</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Managing Director</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>5 Digital Limited</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.letstalkbusinessonline.com/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hear Alan Every Week on Let’s Talk Business The UK’s Premier Radio Programme For Current and Future Entrepreneurs - Now Broadcast To 4 Million People </span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Behalf Of </span></strong>Richard Hilton<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> 15 April 2014 15:00<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [cma-l] DCMS Consultation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ah the 50% rule! &nbsp;Below is part of what I posted back in February on the subject.&nbsp; In essence; most of us aren’t getting close to the 50% limit and fighting for those stations that can’t take any on-air advertising is <u>far</u> more important. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ofcom’s 2013 Communications Market Report has detailed information on our sector.&nbsp; Overall in terms of income in 2012 29% came from On-air advertising and sponsorship.&nbsp; Grants made up 29%, SLA’s 7%, donations 14% and other 20%.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So how is abolishing the 50% rule is going to help?&nbsp; At 29% it’s not that the sector overall is close to hitting 50% limit.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ofcom break these income categories by type of station. Their figures show the % for On-air advertising and sponsorship as follows:-<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Geographic town / rural&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 32%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Geographic rural&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Minority ethnic&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 43%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Military&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 7%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Religious&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 31%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Youth&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 28%<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So for minority ethnic stations at 43% the abolition of the rule might help but I can’t see it helping others. Personally speaking I think the rule was set up for all the right reasons; it encourages diversity in our funding models and makes us less dependent on one source of income.&nbsp; Subtly it governs our sound and ethos. Maybe argue to push it to, say, 60% but I believe this fight is a red herring.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A far most justifiable fight to pick would be to campaign for those community stations that aren’t allowed <u>any</u> on-air advertising and sponsorship as they have a small commercial station broadcasting near them. Their case is far more important. That is where we should be concentrating our fire power.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></strong><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Behalf Of </span></strong>Geoff Rogers<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> 15 April 2014 14:26<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> Fantasy Radio Office; <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [cma-l] DCMS Consultation</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have to be in full agreement here that the 50% rule must go and this should be supported by the CMA. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is notoriously hard to get grant money in many circumstances and to be able to help very small local businesses with very cheap advertising is almost social gain in itself and no threat to even the smallest commercial station (if indeed any of these exist !)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Geoff<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 15 April 2014 12:53, Fantasy Radio Office &lt;<a href="mailto:office@fantasyradio.co.uk" target="_blank">office@fantasyradio.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>On 15/04/2014 12:00, <a href="mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> wrote:<br>&gt; DCMS Consultation<br><br>The 50% rule might seem good to the stations able to pull in grant money<br>- some of us have not been able to do so.<br><br>By restricting advertising revenue, an important and enthusiastic<br>section of the COMMUNITY is partly excluded (i.e. the business sector)<br>from enjoying a relationship with the community station - and therefore<br>the community. This 50% rule must go.<br><br>Phil Dawson<br><br>FANTASY RADIO 97FM<br><br>Devizes and Mid Wiltshire<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br>Canstream Internet Radio &amp; Video: <a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Mailing list guidelines: <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Geoff Rogers<br>Programme Director<br>Susy Radio, Local Community Radio for Redhill and Reigate<br>On-air across Sussex and Surrey on 103.4FM NOW<br>Web: <a href="http://www.susyradio.com" target="_blank">susyradio.com</a><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Susy Radio Ltd. A company registered in England and Wales.<br>Registered Office: 54 Nutfield Road, Merstham, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 3EP.<br>Registered Number: 06748586</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>________________________________________________________________________<br>This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The<br>service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive<br>anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit:<br><a href="http://www.star.net.uk">http://www.star.net.uk</a><br>________________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ <br><br>Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a> <br><br>The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a> <br>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a> <br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a> <br>Canstream Internet Radio &amp; Video: <a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a> <br>_______________________________________________ <br><br>Mailing list guidelines: <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/">http://www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