<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(1, 0, 1); font-family: Arial; ">In reply to Martin Steers below:</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(1, 0, 1); font-family: Arial; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(1, 0, 1); font-family: Arial; ">There are different models of financing Local TV, that's true, some are not for profits others are not, they are for profit companies, people are investing a considerable amount of money for a return.</span></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">All of us have our own views on that and you can debate at leisure the implications of the community radio sector calling for the lifting of restrictions on advertising quotas, presumably some of the advertising coming from private/corporate companies and how "purist" you want to be. That's your choice in reaching consensus. Even if the restrictions are relaxed, that does not mean you have to avail of the opportunity.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010001" face="Arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">There are different models for financing local television as there are for financing community radio and these are often influenced by local circumstances.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">For the record, I said that Grimsby were one of the pioneers of "community" television since 1997, we believe they are a part of the heritage of the community media movement, they are also "local". </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010001">It's extraordinary that some people on this list think the government is giving free handouts and £millions to set up an infrastructure for local TV where no "social gain", as you say is required.</font></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010001"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#010001">Local television has a duty to be a public service which includes a commitment to the following (Ofcom's words not ours):</font></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Localness;</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><span lang="EN-US">Facilitating civic understanding and fair and well-informed debate through coverage of local news and current affairs;</span></font></div><div><span lang="EN-US"><span lang="EN-US"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Reflecting the lives and concerns of communities and cultural interest and traditions in the area;</font></span></span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><span lang="EN-US">Inclusion of content that informs, educates and entertains and is not otherwise available;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Broadening reach;<span lang="EN-US"></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Education and training;</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Bringing social and economic benefits to the area served;</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Diversity;</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">Partnerships within the local area - these are relatively diverse but include colleges, schools, community and voluntary organisations, charities, local authorities, etc and in our case we asked for the support and also we want to support the Ofcom licensed community radio stations in our catchment area for mutual and public benefit.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001">M</font></div></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial" color="#010001"><br></font></div><div><div>On 13 Feb 2014, at 21:55, Martin Steers wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">lets not mix up apples and oranges here..<div><br></div><div>You mean community radio and LOCAL TV.. not community TV.. arnt most of the licenses that have been worn been issued to private / corporate companies with no mandated social gain requirements unlike community radio stations..?</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Nic Millington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:NicM@ruralmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">NicM@ruralmedia.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I’d like to endorse all of Marilyn’s comments, and add that there should be a wide range of imaginative and mutually beneficial partnerships that can be formed in those areas where there are both local radio and local TV licence holders. To date of course in the rural West Midlands there are neither – so still much work to do!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We at Rural Media were very sorry to hear about the closure of Stroud and hope that on day in some form local community services can be re-established.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Best<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Nic<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Nic Millington FRSA<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Chief Executive<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The Rural Media Company<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Sullivan House<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">72-80 Widemarsh St<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hereford HR4 9HG<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">T: 01432 344039<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">M: 07710 941 077<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">E: <a href="mailto:nicm@ruralmedia.co.uk" target="_blank">nicm@ruralmedia.co.uk</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">W: <a href="http://www.ruralmedia.co.uk/" target="_blank">www.ruralmedia.co.uk</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Follow us on <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Twitter: <span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><a href="http://www.twitter.com/ruralmedia" target="_blank">www.twitter.com/ruralmedia</a> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Facebook: The Rural Media Company<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marilyn Hyndman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 February 2014 16:02<br><b>To:</b> Melita Dennett<br><b>Cc:</b> CMA-Mailing-List</span></p><div class=""><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Closure of Stroud FM<u></u><u></u></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I hope this uncharitable and insensitive remark in this forum is not shared by many.<u></u><u></u></p><div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
Thankfully it is not shared by the BBC whose email system you are using.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Many of us have lobbied long and hard for Local TV in the UK since the 1990s and we have been constant in our support of the community radio sector including the Access Radio pilots which made it all more possible to have a community radio sector in the first place.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This is not a handout, it is a negotiated contract which took some months of work to achieve whereby the choice rests with the local TV station to take up the offer of finance in return for approx 4 television news stories a day, every day, delivered by the Local TV station and offered to the BBC for broadcast.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The impact in terms of public benefit has only just begun to be tested as only Grimsby on air, I suggest that this organisation, one of the pioneers of community television since 1997, actually deserves the support of this forum ....as indeed it has supported the community media sector during all those years.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><div class="h5"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We are all very sorry to hear of the closure of Stroud, here in Belfast and send our best wishes to you.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">M<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
On 13 Feb 2014, at 09:52, Melita Dennett wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The irony of the funding of local TV stations via licence fees is not lost of some of us either – they are likely to suck away advertising from small radio outlets, both commercial and community, yet are being given a handout (£150,000 in our area, I understand) which would have a far greater impact if it went to community radio.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Melita</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">RadioReverb, Brighton</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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