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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>That's all true Glyn, plus of course that Ofcom, without any intended malice or accusation on my part, simply does not have the time, personnel, funding or motivation to look objectively at every single application or query for an FM channel.<BR>
I'll go further as regards Protection Factors and receiver efficiency and say that we are the only EC member in my experience that still adheres to the original CCIR protocols and allows for ridiculously low levels of image rejection in domestic receivers.<BR>
I'll happily contribute what I can, but I haven't time to wade through all those words!<BR>
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:46:56 +0100<BR>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom consultation: UHF and VHF spectrum planning<BR>From: glynroylance@googlemail.com<BR>To: transplanfm@hotmail.com<BR>CC: bill.best@commedia.org.uk<BR><BR>
<DIV>On the latter, I think there might be a (small) window to argue for more space on Band II. The primary reason they say there is "no space" is due to the Protection Ratios they use. If you use their figures then it is true - there is no space. However if you could use less stringent ratios, then there could magically be a lot of space.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thus to play their consultation game we need to propose that the Protection ratios are reviewed. If anyone has evidence of less stringent Protection ratios being used in other countries (esepcially Europe) then that gives a chink to argue this approach.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think anotehr stong argument would be based upon the fact (is it fact?) that reciever performance for ACS (adjacent channel selectivity) has improved substantially since the Prootection Ratios were devised. It would be helpful if we could find facts and figures to support that assertion.</DIV>
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<DIV>So yes we have to jump through their hoops, but it could be possible to build a credible argument that they might consider. I think it needs a few heads to get together between now and friday.</DIV>
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<DIV>AOn 30 September 2013 09:38, Ian Hickling <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target=_blank>transplanfm@hotmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr> <BR>Thanks Bill.<BR>Whilst I appreciate that Ofcom has to be seen to be taking a very comprehensive approach to this subject, I can't help feeling that it has been so excessively couched in comprehensivity that most people - like me - will give up trying to find how and where to assess what is required and simply not bother to respond.<BR>So would the CMA please on our behalf firstly tell Ofcom in the most appropriate way that what we need in VHF and UHF planning is a simple and practical approach that makes spectrum available for essential use by the smaller, poorly-funded and uninfluential Licensees rather than it being sold off to some commercial entity which may or may not actually use or need it?<BR>And secondly take a much more speedy and realistic approach to finding space in Band II for small broadcasters rather than simply saying that no frequencies are available?<BR>Thank you.<BR>Ian<BR> <BR>
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 00:31:38 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Ofcom consultation: UHF and VHF spectrum planning<BR>To: <A href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target=_blank>transplanfm@hotmail.com</A><BR>From: <A href="mailto:bill.best@commedia.org.uk" target=_blank>bill.best@commedia.org.uk</A><BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr><BR>The CMA has approached a number of mailing list subscribers for their views on the Ofcom consultation on UHF and VHF spectrum planning. The deadline for responses is 5pm Friday 4th October.
<DIV><BR>Here's the summary:<BR><BR><A href="http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/uhf-vhf-spectrum-planning/summary" target=_blank>http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/uhf-vhf-spectrum-planning/summary</A><BR><BR></DIV>The full consultation is attached - however only 10 pages are relevant.
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<DIV><BR>In a nutshell they are seeking input from stakeholders on the<BR>following specific areas:<BR><BR>- The planning scenarios that Ofcom is likely to have to address over<BR>the next few years and the technologies that could be involved.<BR>- The factors that are relevant for Ofcom to consider when assessing<BR>the impacts and benefits associated with addressing the evolution in<BR>spectrum planning requirements for DTT and DAB, and associated<BR>potential changes in requirements for a spectrum planning model.<BR>- Requirements that other users might have from such tools.<BR>- The outline work plan for achieving these objectives.<BR><BR>Here are the questions:<BR><BR>Question 1: Do you have a specific requirement for access to a new<BR>planning model and if so, what are your specific requirements?<BR><BR>Question 2: Have we correctly identified and characterised the<BR>potential options set out above, and what other options – if any –<BR>should be taken into account in our consideration?<BR><BR>Question 3: Do you have a preference for (one or more) particular options?<BR><BR>Question 4: Have we correctly identified and characterised the<BR>potential impacts set out above, and what other impacts – if any –<BR>should be taken into account in our consideration?<BR><BR>Question 5: What evidence, whether qualitative or quantitative, should<BR>we obtain and/or take into account in considering each of these<BR>potential impacts? Please identify any sources of specific evidence to<BR>which we should have regard.<BR><BR>Question 6: Have we correctly identified and characterised the<BR>potential benefits set out above, and what other benefits – if any –<BR>should be taken into account in our assessment?<BR><BR>Question 7: What evidence, whether qualitative or quantitative, should<BR>we obtain and/or take into account in assessing each of these<BR>potential benefits? Please identify any sources of specific evidence<BR>to which we should have regard.<BR><BR>Question 8: Should we place different weights on some impacts and<BR>benefits than on others?<BR><BR>Question 9: Do you have any comments on the work plan we have<BR>outlined? e.g. do you agree with our proposed timing and approach for<BR>securing a new model?<BR><BR></DIV></DIV>Is there anything that you would like to add to the CMA's response which will be submitted by Friday's deadline?
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