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Its radio - what watershed?<br>
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Eddie<br>
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On 01/11/2011 10:55, Andrew David wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Comic Sans
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style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";color:blue">The mood of the
Ofcom meeting was very clear – ‘fess up to a problem
and they’ll be as helpful
as possible, so long as you can show that you’re
trying to fix the issue and
put robust but simple systems in place. It was
interesting that the mainstream
commercial and BBC representatives are also
experiencing the same sorts of dilemmas
that CR is facing. So, having paid people to check
compliance of songs, doesn’t
always work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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policy (with a 9-24 year old focus in the KCs) is,
LEGAL, DECENT and HONEST and
for safety’s sake we do not have a watershed. It’s
always (streaming) before
9.00pm somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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of Music who does his level best either to only load
Radio Edit tracks or to
down load the song lyrics and check them through.
This is time consuming and
we’re looking at ways of developing a team around
him to divide this out to other
volunteers. They will, of course, undergo relevant
training.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian
Hickling<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
31 October 2011 22:41<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a></st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
cma-l;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:comradio-l@commedia.org.uk">comradio-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
[cma-l] Avoiding
sexually-explicit songs</span></font><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">Sorry Martin - and everyone
else - but if, as you say, you
haven't the the staff or volunteers to pre-check
all music that's played, then
you should simply not be using anything - or
anyone - that you are not prepared
to personally guarantee as socially acceptable.<br>
<br>
You are leaving yourself wide open to very serious
social and
litigious action and in my view you should not
risk operating a
freely-available public service under those
conditions. <br>
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------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">transplan
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;
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w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a></st1:personname><br>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:26:27 +0000<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ian@transplan.uk.com">ian@transplan.uk.com</a><br>
CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:comradio-l@commedia.org.uk">comradio-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Radio stations to get new
guidance on avoiding sexually
explicit songs<br>
<br>
Ian / All, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">I think the guidance is a
good thing, I dont
under stand how any community station wouldnt
want more guidance or
support in what they are doing in any or all
areas lol.. and these are for all
broadcasters not just community,
even commercial stations get in
trouble over language..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">What your suggesting is an
interesting one, we have a
playlist that certain shows have to follow and
music on that is checked.. but
even we dont have the staff or volunteers to
pre check all music thats played,
we train and advice volunteers and we hope for
the best..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at
3:18 PM, Ian Hickling <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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For Heaven's sake - how much
molly-coddling do we need?<br>
The answer's simple.<br>
We don't need Government or Regulator
guidance.<br>
Common sense and experience will
tell a responsible Licensee what's
permissible in Law and acceptable
to the station's audience.<br>
Nothing is played or allowed on the
playout system until it's been
auditioned
by the PC or equivalent.<br>
You do not let all and sundry play
what they like.<br>
How hard can that be?<br>
------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma">> From: <a
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href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 12:37:04
+0000<br>
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:comradio-l@commedia.org.uk">comradio-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
> Subject: [cma-l] The Guardian:
Radio stations to get new guidance
on
avoiding sexually explicit songs<br>
> <br>
> Ben Dowell, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://guardian.co.uk/"
target="_blank">guardian.co.uk</a>,
Monday 31 October 2011 12.18 GMT<br>
> <br>
> The BBC and commercial radio
broadcasters will have to take more
care<br>
> with sexually explicit music
lyrics, particularly in songs by rap<br>
> artists, as part of a
continuing crackdown by media
regulator Ofcom on<br>
> content that is inappropriate
for children.<br>
> <br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
radio broadcasters are to be issued
with new guidance by media<br>
> regulator Ofcom to address the
problem of broadcasting sexually<br>
> explicit music lyrics at times
when children are listening.<br>
> <br>
> Following a meeting last week
between representatives from the<br>
> commercial sector as well as
the BBC's editorial policy unit,
Ofcom<br>
> has promised to issue new and
detailed guidance by the end of the<br>
> year.<br>
> <br>
> Of particular concern to Ofcom
are offensive music lyrics aired at<br>
> times in the morning and early
evenings when children are often in
the<br>
> cars with the radio on as they
are being taken to and from school.<br>
> <br>
> This follows the issuing of
stricter guidance to TV broadcasters
last<br>
> month on airing such material
before the 9pm watershed and signals
a<br>
> growing desire by the regulator
to combat the problem.<br>
> <br>
> Current rules enshrined in the
Ofcom broadcasting code prohibit the<br>
> broadcast of inappropriate or
offensive material when children may
be<br>
> listening. But Ofcom says that
the rules are flouted too often,<br>
> particularly in the playing of
rap music and that it has run out of<br>
> patience.<br>
> <br>
> Among recent examples of
breaches of these rules was the
airing by<br>
> Scottish community radio
station Brick FM of the song More
Punany by<br>
> reggae artist Dr Evil at 3pm.
It contained the lyrics "last night
I<br>
> had a crazy threesome" and "I
like to see the girls in the sexy
bikini<br>
> ni ni/Want to take my chilli
and push it between ni ni", as well
as
"I<br>
> like pun-na-na-na-ni even if
it's a virgin".<br>
> <br>
> The broadcaster claimed that
"punany" referred to a sandwich – a<br>
> panini, a claim that was
roundly dismissed by the regulator,
which<br>
> said it was slang for a woman's
genitalia.<br>
> <br>
> In May Radio 1 broadcast an
expletive-strewn concert by the band
the<br>
> Black Eyed Peas at the
station's Big Weekend event in <st1:place
w:st="on">Carlisle</st1:place>.
During<br>
> the broadcast the lead singer
shouted "What the fuck's going
down" and<br>
> introduced their second song
with the words "This song</span></font><font
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS
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face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">s
for all
the<br>
> fucking crazy people".<br>
> <br>
> An Ofcom spokeswoman said:
"Ofcom takes its role in protecting<br>
> children from offensive
language on the radio very
seriously. We are<br>
> concerned that there have been
a number of recent cases where<br>
> offensive language was
broadcast, some at times when
children were<br>
> particularly likely to have
been listening. That is why we held
a<br>
> meeting with the radio industry
this week to discuss the issues. We<br>
> intend to publish guidance by
the end of the year to clarify the
rules<br>
> in the broadcasting code."<br>
> <br>
> A BBC spokesman added: "The
BBC, along with all radio
broadcasters,<br>
> sent a representative to
discuss the matter and, while we
have had no<br>
> complaints upheld for bad
language for more than three years,
we will<br>
> work with Ofcom to ensure we
continue to deal with language in a<br>
> responsible way."<br>
> <br>
> Source: <a
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